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Is it stealing? (Read 379 times)


sugnim

    There is a bottle of mustard in the break room refrigerator at work.  I don't know who it belongs to.  It is mostly full.  I used some of it on a sandwich today without saying anything.  Is that theft?  Is that the same as taking someone's lunch from the fridge?  Should I leave a note on the mustard bottle?  Thoughts?

      was it Poupon or French's?

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        No name on the bottle in a community fridge?  not stealing. Smile

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          No one can own mustard.  Mustard has one purpose in life, to flavor a sandwich.

          Well at least someone here is making relevance to the subject.

            it's no different than banditting a race. Just don't bandit a race carrying a bottle of mustard. People will think you're strange.

            JimR


              yes


              sugnim

                was it Poupon or French's?

                 

                Gulden's Spicy Brown Mustard.

                 


                A Dance with Monkeys

                  That was you?

                   

                  Perhaps I should not have used a mustard bottle to store my human biology experiment. Sorry, my bad.

                   

                  I hope you are okay.


                  just a simple cat

                    ...uh...oh....Dead

                     

                    I  guess as you get more bodacious, you begin to lose more brain cells, because there is a limit to how much magnificence your body can house

                    Jack K.


                    I love sponge cake.

                      The word "stealing" is a bit harsh in this case, but it was not yours. I have done that as well, so I'm not saying it is ok. Stealing? Probably not. Rude and somewhat disrespectful? Maybe...

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                      A Saucy Wench

                        The word "stealing" is a bit harsh in this case, but it was not yours. I have done that as well, so I'm not saying it is ok. Stealing? Probably not. Rude and somewhat disrespectful? Maybe...

                         

                        This is really more a question of cultural norms in your particular tribe.  I've worked in offices where condiments were common property.  I've also worked in offices where nobody was allowed to leave anything in the fridge more than a day, so if it had been there the day before, it was illegal mustard.

                        I have become Death, the destroyer of electronic gadgets

                         

                        "When I got too tired to run anymore I just pretended I wasnt tired and kept running anyway" - dd, age 7


                        Prince of Fatness

                          No one here will be able to clear your conscience for you.  You must do it yourself.

                           

                          That said it was a dab of effing mustard.  Relax.  Unless you drowned your sammich in it.

                          Semi-retired.


                          Imminent Catastrophe

                            In a more blatant case, here's my tale of woe:

                             

                            I stayed at a B&B before the Salmon Marathon. Put my Starbucks Doubleshot Espresso cans, my pre-race staple, in the community fridge. Race morning I got up and guess what, some asshat had stolen it. Obviously this is not replaceable on race morning. They also took our neighbor's lemonade.

                            At least they left the shower beer and kombucha.

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                              What kind of a lazy bastard leaves mustard in the break room kitchen?  If you can't take it home, it is community property!

                              2014 Goals

                              Weight - 200 lbs (stuck around 211)

                              2000 miles (1190 as of July 1)

                              Work on stretching and flexibility (doing so much better at this!)

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                              10k - 39:59 (no goal race yet)

                              5k - 19:30 (goal race July 4)

                               

                                There is a bottle of mustard in the break room refrigerator at work.  I don't know who it belongs to.  It is mostly full.  I used some of it on a sandwich today without saying anything.  Is that theft?  Is that the same as taking someone's lunch from the fridge?  Should I leave a note on the mustard bottle?  Thoughts?

                                 

                                Well, in English law (and I suppose its somewhat similar in the US) this would probably be theft subject to a couple of things.

                                 

                                Honest belief that the owner would consent in the circumstances is a defence.

                                 

                                In any case dishonesty is a key ingredient which is ultimately a jury question - in the UK the jury are directed roughly as follows: Was what the defendant did, by the ordinary standards of reasonable and honest people dishonest and, if so, did he realise that by those standards what he did was dishonest?

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