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Hi,
I'm new to 'Running Ahead' and I have recently starting running and have been trying to get a good amount of miles in a week. Started with 3 miles or so most days and now trying to do 4+ miles ( done approx 16 miles a week for 3 weeks so far).
My lower calf/Achilles seem pretty tight quit often while running and sometime ache quit a bit afterward. Is this likely to be because I am not used to running basically or do I maybe need to rest more? I actually walked just over 3 miles today as I thought I needed to rest but my achilles/low calf hurts even more in my one leg now and is sore to touch.
What are your thoughts or some key tips a new runner should consider, in particular how not to injure yourself before you really get started.
Thanks
Dan
Make sure you aren't running in broken down shoes is an important start. If your shoes are old, go get properly fitted at a running store.
It does take some time for your body to adjust to the impact of running. What kind of running are you doing - treadmill, outside, hills, grass, etc? Many new runners need to slow down at first. That's a common suggestion as well you'll likely hear.
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Hi Dan,
Welcome.
It may be that you started too aggressively. For a brand new runner (I do not know your fitness background) to jump into three miles per day may be too much. Try to drop back to a mile a day for five days, then, each week, add a bit to each run.
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I bought some trainers that were to suit a neutral foot and slight under pronation. I chose these due to a wet foot print test and the wear on old trainers. So hopefully the trainers are ok for my feet.
I have been running out doors on grass/trail and pavement mostly.
My fitness is ok but I never have concentrated on my running before. (Just measured my pulse before I got out of bed and it went down to 47, and Last year I got my HR up to a max 202).
I hurt my shoulder last summer and it still isnt fixed properly so I gave up weight training which I was doing 3 times a week and I also gave up mixed martial arts November again hoping to sort my shoulder out.
So I thought it was about time I did something active and running seems to be a good idea to improve my fitness and for something to do that I will hopefully enjoy more as and when I get a bit better.
pjr: mid-foot is generally considered best. 2 miles/day every day is better than 3 miles/day on alternating days to start with. Actually, it is usually better to measure time than distance, i.e. 20 minutes daily rather than 2 miles. Once you are comfortable with 20 minutes daily, alternate 20 minutes and 30 minutes for a few weeks, then push to 30 minutes daily.
dcm: do you stretch at all? I have a seriously messed up right calf, part of the medial gastroc separated from the Achilles due to a skiing accident several years ago, and then a year later I had a soleus strain because it was working too hard for the bad gastroc. Stretching before a run is very controversial, but it is part of what works for me. I stretch calves (wall push), hamstrings (leg on a stool), and quads (pull heel to butt) before I run. If you are inexperienced at stretching, be extremely gentle to start with.
Both of ya: it takes a while to develop aerobic base and running economy. You can do this with daily runs at an easy pace to start with. An easy pace is literally one where you feel like you can run all day, while holding a conversation. If you can be patient enough, work up to runs of 30 minutes daily and hold steady there for a month, then think about adding some speed on one day, and some extra distance on another, like running for an hour. Here a "speed" day is what would be called a tempo run, where you run easy for 10 minutes, run hard for 10-20 minutes, then run easy for 10 minutes. Finally, by running daily you can get into the habit of doing a recovery run after a hard run, something which many people don't do because they believe themselves to be too sore, when in reality it teaches the body to recover faster from hard efforts. The greatest part of just starting out is that you can expect to post improved race times for years to come, as your running economy improves, your aerobic fitness improves, your racing experience broadens, and as the amount of time spent running increases.
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I do some quick stretching to start on the calfs but maybe only for 1 minute then im off. I do spend 5-10 minutes stretching at the end. (I've done 6-7 years of martial arts so used to stretch a lot but not anymore)
I have slowed my pace down after 3 weeks of trying to run 3 miles faster and faster and think that was a bad mistake. Been trying 4 miles in around 40 minutes and that is comfortable for me at the moment, my HR down to the mid 160's which is maybe a bit high but find i can get up to about 184 before I start to find it difficult.
I'll just keep doing the easy runs and look at some tempos a few weeks down the line. There is an 8 mile race in my area in 2 months through some woods/trails/country roads which I might look into doing but not sure if that is a bit close in time to do.
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ditto on the run by time, especially for slow pokes like me. When I changed to "by time" and switched to low heart rate running (see the lhr forum here on RA) I found I could run longer and more miles faster than I did when I followed more traditional training programs - which resulted in injuries last spring.
What has worked for me is to run easy, then easier, run often (5-7x/wk), with one long, slow, distance day (lsd - not the drug) of 2-3 hrs.
good luck - try not to do to much to soon.
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Thanks Chris,
I have dropped my pace back/effort this week and it is more comfortable and I feel like I could run for a long time,
But going much slower I find very difficult, I would be walking if I go any slower. I could hold a conversation up to the low 180's.
When I ran on a handful of occassions last year I would get my HR up to 197 running a 3 mile loop with one big hill, and my average would be 185+. I was trying to go way to fast and had to stop a few times.
I think now I'm going in the right direction to get my pace right, just have to remeber to try and run just a little bit slower so I can do more.
My tuppence worth:
I'd go the other way and say that you should run slightly longer but with a lower frequency but each to their own. I'm an engineering graduate student, not a sports 'scientist' (yes, that is a dig). To be honest though, it depends entirely what your goal is. Are you planning on running to lose weight, to win the Olympics or for the most beautiful reason: just for the sake of running?
With regards to shoes and foot-strikes. I'm in the barefoot camp so would strongly recommend against going to your local running shop. They're not trained in anything except how to sell expensive shoes. I'm somewhat cynical since I know fine-well that none of these shop workers have any professional training (why would you be working in a shoe shop on minimum wage if you were an expert in biomechanics?!). I have multiple friends that work, or have worked, in local shops and it just so happens that often the most 'supportive' shoes are also the ones that the shop makes the biggest profit on.
The way I look at it, is that you want your legs to become conditioned and more resilient in order to allow you to run more miles. Shoes that are designed to reduce pronation (which is a natural shock-absorbing mechanism) allow you to run longer because they minimise the work done by the supporting muscles, that's the 'science' behind the hard foam used on the medial part of the sole. However, they also allow those muscles to atrophy rather than become stronger and more conditioned. The classic analogy is the wearing of a cast on your wrist: after you take it off, the wrist tends to be weaker and people are often prescribed strengthening exercises. It's a bit much to say shoes act exactly like this, but it is a very similar situation. Except that you wear the shoes through choice.
For me, the outcome of running in ultra-thin shoes has been that my running style has altered somewhat. My stride is a little shorter but I now land on my mid or forefoot, rather than my heel. I personally feel the thin shoes have allowed me to run much further without getting sore muscles but as a student of the physical sciences, I know I can't make such a broad claim because there are far too many other effects to take into account (I'm lucky enough to have never been injured except for a bad case of shin-splints caused by too-much-too-soon-itis).
One final point about shoes: regardless of the science, or lack thereof, in the design of FiveFingers or their antitheses that are proffered upon you in your local running shop, you should wear whatever you feel best in and whatever works for you. Running is completely personal. I wear FiveFingers because they make every run feel like I'm a kid again and I'm going out to play. Everyone has their own reasons, you'll have to find yours for yourself.
Please forgive me for the essay and somewhat off-topic content. Please message me if you want any advice. Running changed my life and I love nothing more than seeing someone else discover the joy of miles.
Thanks Chris, I have dropped my pace back/effort this week and it is more comfortable and I feel like I could run for a long time, But going much slower I find very difficult, I would be walking if I go any slower. I could hold a conversation up to the low 180's. When I ran on a handful of occassions last year I would get my HR up to 197 running a 3 mile loop with one big hill, and my average would be 185+. I was trying to go way to fast and had to stop a few times. I think now I'm going in the right direction to get my pace right, just have to remeber to try and run just a little bit slower so I can do more.
You really can carry on a conversation all the way to 180? Wow I guess every body is different. Just currious have you measured your resting and max heart rates? I would be curious what those are.
I think the common diffention of an "easy run" is one that after you are done, you are still feeling good enough that if you had to you could run the same distance again right away.
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