Flying Pig in Cincinnati (Read 850 times)

Ha! Sure you would.

Excellent point. Put differently, I have been lusting the H&M marathon for several years now, but it is out of the way for my annual drive to Duluth to run Grandma's. The fact that it is a week before Grandma's does not bother me, as you know. It is just a logistical challenge for my family. And if I can't run it, you shouldn't either.

if things worked out and your arm was sufficiently twisted, could you be talked into doing it?

Yes. But my wife would probably kill me. Dead. And then there'd be no issue.

Yes. But my wife would probably kill me. Dead. And then there'd be no issue.

So what's the downside for me?

BearCat, can you run both days on the weekend? If you can, I would then do one 10 miler per week and 2 five milers, with one on the weekend and one midweek. Your tempo pace should be around your 10k - HM pace (i.e., perhaps a minute/mile faster than your marathon pace), but really just run it hard and steady. JK, my wife would come looking for you after she was done with me.

Hmmm. Again I'm not seeing the downside here. Is she armed? Bearcat: I pretty much agree with Trent. Personally I'd lose at least one or two of the days off. I'm not even sure I'd worry much about the tempo run, either, and I'd keep the long runs shorter for now. Nothing but base building and easy mileage for a while. Then again, if you really truly can't make yourself run at an easy 9:00-9:30 (or slower) pace on easy days - maybe days off are a good idea. They're better than running too hard every day.

Hmmm. Again I'm not seeing the downside here. Is she armed? Bearcat: I pretty much agree with Trent. Personally I'd lose at least one or two of the days off. I'm not even sure I'd worry much about the tempo run, either, and I'd keep the long runs shorter for now. Nothing but base building and easy mileage for a while. Then again, if you really truly can't make yourself run at an easy 9:00-9:30 (or slower) pace on easy days - maybe days off are a good idea. They're better than running too hard every day.

I agree too. One thing that I noticed is that your 20-milers are "hill" runs. Unh-uh. Long runs should be easy aerobic runs and hill runs should be much harder but shorter. They should be high-intensity workouts that build leg strength. That would have really helped you at the Pig, I think. However, as Trent and Jake were saying, wait until you have a better base before starting hillwork, then build gradually.

Does this make any sense. In the next month I want to run a 5K with at least a 7:30 pace (BQ time) beg of June. Then in another month I want to run a 15K with at least a 7:30 pace Beg July. Then try to run the Columbus Marathon at an 8:30 pace. This will give me 4 months to train. Columbus is a flatter course and I will be training in hotter weather so when Columbus comes in October I will be running in cooler weather. I think I need to learn how feed my body during long runs during this time. I am hoping to do my 20 mile loop on the flying pig cours once a month. However, most of my runs will be shorter then 16 miles. You guys are awesome thanks for all of the help. I know you probably just read what I wrote above and think I am not listening but that can't be further from the truth. I am really trying to understand. Mon Off Tue Easy 8 miles Wed Tempo Run of 6 miles (1 easy mile, 4 miles at race pace (7:30 - 8:00) then 1 easy mile. Thur Easy 8 miles Fri Off Sat Easy 10 - 20 miles (will vary) Sun Easy 6-8 miles (depending on Sat run).

What is up with all of the monkey/Ape avatars?