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When to add a tempo or speedwork (Read 1475 times)

    Background: I just had a baby in Oct and am slowly building my milage back up. I have a few aches and pains here and there, plus I'm still losing baby weight (ie heavier than normal). So I'm taking it slow.  I'm not training for anything to specific right now. I'll do a few 5Ks and 10Ks this spring w/ a 8K race in July that I'll have to be back on my game (fast for me) for bragging rights.

    The question is: when should/can I add a tempo/speedwork in my training?  Should I wait a certain amount of time ~ 3 months or so of consistant running, or maybe after I've ran about 20 miles per week for a few weeks or just when I start feeling good? I don't want to get injured, but the better my runs feel the more I want to start pushing it, but I don't want to get ahead of myself. So anyone who's had experience in this area I would appreciate your suggestions.

    Melo

    "Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love, this is the eternal rule " -- Buddha

     

    Don't let a little thing like total public humiliation stand between you and a good time. - TD from Martha Speaks.

      my opinion is get to where you run 125+ miles in 2 consecutive months and then ask the question.  You'll be in a better position to be ready and a better position to appreciate and incorporate the answers.

      2012 goal = 4:59 for 1,500 meters. (before then just get healthy)

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      CPT Curmudgeon

        Depends.

         

        Depends on goals.  Depends on the definition of "tempo" and "speedwork".  Depends on your training.  Depends on you body.

         

        There's no real set formula.  Personally, I view speedwork as doing high intensity work, like intervals or even sometimes progression runs.  That stuff I've done sparingly, and usually only consistently when trying to prep for a specific race (which hasn't been for a long time).  I define "tempo" as being a run with a moderate effort (moderate being specific to my understanding of effort).  I do it maybe once every other week when I'm actually trying to prepare for something specific, building to once a week.  If I'm just running to run, I do it whenever the mood strikes.  That could be once a week, that could be once a month, that could be never.

          Thanks Doug I'm not a 125 mile per week kind of person. I have a life outside of running. Nevermind, I'll ask elsewhere.

          "Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love, this is the eternal rule " -- Buddha

           

          Don't let a little thing like total public humiliation stand between you and a good time. - TD from Martha Speaks.

          Scout7


          CPT Curmudgeon

            Thanks Doug I'm not a 125 mile per week kind of person. I have a life outside of running. Nevermind, I'll ask elsewhere.

             

            That wasn't 125 miles per week.  That  was per month.


            Prince of Fatness

              I think that Doug meant two 125+ mile months.  Anyhow, if you feel like running fast, why not.  It doesn't have to be structured at this point, maybe some strides during some of your runs.

              There is a long dark road ahead of me.

              flovesparko


                I think Doug is right on. Do about two months of running without worrying about any speed and just get your body used to running again. Your muscles, ligaments, tendons, and bones will all thank you later.  Doug mention 125 miles for two months, that's only about 15 a week so he was trying to give you sound advice..
                  I think Doug is right on. Do about two months of running without worrying about any speed and just get your body used to running again. Your muscles, ligaments, tendons, and bones will all thank you later.  Doug mention 125 miles for two months, that's only about 15 a week so he was trying to give you sound advice..

                   

                  No, Doug said 125+ miles in 2 consecutive months, meaning 125 miles a month for two srtaight months. That equates to about 31 miles per week for eight weeks.

                  2012 Goals:

                  5k = sub 22:00

                  10k = sub 45:00

                  HM = sub 1:40:00

                  Run = 2000 miles

                  Bike = 3000 miles

                  Swim = 130 miles

                  ba-YRT


                    I took a look at your log, and I think I can relate to your running life.  I've had a couple of kids and have learned to adjust my running expectations after you go through that.

                    I'd vote for just waiting until you feel completely yourself again.  I'm not talking about mileage or paces specifically.  Those can seem normal, but you still just don't feel right.  Once you feel great, consider adding quality work back in (if that's what you enjoy). 

                    I'm assuming your performance in the races you have planned isn't the highest priority right now.  Take the pressure off yourself... you'll know when the time is right!

                    If you already feel great, disregard everything I just said.

                      Of course it may be a mute point because of the OP's mistaken understanding and response.
                      Kyle Kopidlansky


                        Thanks Doug I'm not a 125 mile per week kind of person. I have a life outside of running. Nevermind, I'll ask elsewhere.

                         Months, not weeks.  Months.  Months.

                          oh my gosh.  I was at meetings for a few hours and I set off a firestorm by not being careful.

                           

                          Sorry... I meant run 125 miles in a month.  then repeat one more month.  at that point your body should be ready to handle speedwork.  That requires about 30 miles per week.  This is just my opinion. 

                           

                          A younger and more fit person than I am, with less potential for injury could probably do it much sooner.  I did speedwork on zero base.  But I was 15 years old at the time and trying track just for the heck of it. 

                           

                          2012 goal = 4:59 for 1,500 meters. (before then just get healthy)

                            Should I wait a certain amount of time ~ 3 months or so of consistant running...

                             

                            I don't want to get injured...

                             

                            I don't want to get ahead of myself...

                             

                            So anyone who's had experience in this area I would appreciate your suggestions.

                             

                             

                            I guess the short answer is yes.  Based on my experience. 

                             

                             

                             

                            2012 goal = 4:59 for 1,500 meters. (before then just get healthy)

                              A good way to do this at lower base is to run your middle or last mile faster than the others.  Not likely to cause injury and it feels good to get your HR up there.  One problem with doing a dedicated tempo workout is that you need a couple miles warmup and 2-3 miles at tempo, which is longer that what you have done recently. As you say, you have a life outside of running, so just go out and run, in a way that makes you feel good about what you are doing.

                               

                              For weight loss, try to run a few miles 5-6 days a week, and start doing longer runs.  Consistency first, then volume, then tempo, then speedwork.

                              2012 Goal:  2000 Miles

                                oh my gosh.  I was at meetings for a few hours and I set off a firestorm by not being careful.

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                That's why I blow off meetings. 

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