2000 miles of dating 35000 yr olds

How realistic is this goal? For real. (Read 2026 times)


The Greatest of All Time

    Well done partner! It's hard to beat the feeling that follows a successful track work out. But doing lines of good coke off a stripper's ass comes pretty close. Wink
    all you touch and all you see, is all your life will ever be

    Obesity is a disease. Yes, a disease where nothing tastes bad...except salads.


    Rule #15

      Len, Great workout. You nailed it. Eddy, yes mileage is key but he's got less than 5 weeks to his next goal race. And your workout times to race times are no predictor of what Len can do. I've run low 17's off of 6 x 800m at 5:40 pace.
      What mikey said is so true. I believe Eddy was over-training in the pace he was holding for the 800's he ran at 5:40 pace. I ran 18:22 (5:55 pace) and never ran 800 intervals faster than 6:00 pace. From what I've read on training paces, you do not run intervals faster than current ability. Why I do not know, but you do get faster than what you were running the speedwork. I surmise that running them faster is over-training.

      Ricky

      —our ability to perform up to our physiological potential in a race is determined by whether or not we truly psychologically believe that what we are attempting is realistic. Anton Krupicka

      Len


      Damn Yankee

        But doing lines of good coke off a stripper's ass comes pretty close. Wink
        I may try that this weekend, especially if it helps me get my mug. I appreciate everyone's advice, encouragement, and interest.
        Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending. Carl Bard
        Len


        Damn Yankee

          Q- didn't want to clutter the other thread with my pointless obsessions.
          How's the 5k training coming? Yes, for real.
          I'm running more than I have since high school but I crashed and burned on one long run, and missed the interval workout last week. My legs alternate between feeling strong and fatigued. Today was fatigue. I still don't know if I can pull it off but I feel like I'm giving myself a shot at it anyway.
          Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending. Carl Bard


          More Cowbell!

            From what I've read on training paces, you do not run intervals faster than current ability. Why I do not know, but you do get faster than what you were running the speedwork. I surmise that running them faster is over-training.
            Most intervals are designed to improve your VO2max or rather, vVO2max (your velocity at VO2max). If you do Daniel's training, this corresponds to I-Pace. It's the fastest possible pace you can hold for about 12 minutes. Anyhow, it's possible to do shorter intervals at >100% vVO2max. But your VO2max isn't getting any more benefit from running at 105% vVO2max than at 100% vVO2max. Running above 100% places additional stresses your body without actually improving the system you are trying to improve with the workout. A good training pace calculator here: http://www.attackpoint.org/trainingpaces.jsp

            20th Century: Is ancient history
            21st Century: 5k: 19:42 |10k: 43:00


            The Greatest of All Time

              Running above 100% places additional stresses your body without actually improving the system you are trying to improve with the workout.
              Word.
              all you touch and all you see, is all your life will ever be

              Obesity is a disease. Yes, a disease where nothing tastes bad...except salads.
                Despite my heroic considerations of running these intervals in 3:20, I was pretty nervous when I got to the track this morning. I haven't run an interval workout since I started running again and frankly, I wasn't confident I could finish the workout. Ran a mile warmup and started the intervals (6x 800 with 400 recoveries)- 800's- 3:37, 3:38, 3:38, 3:35, 3:34, 3:30 400's ranged between 2:05 and 2:12 I was pretty suprised. It wasn't easy, but it wasn't the agony I anticipated either. I actually had to slow down in the second lap of each interval to hit my target. I resisted the temptation to blow through the last two, and just ran a little faster than I had earlier. I feel good. Now I need a shower.
                Nice, Len. Perfectly done.

                In the fight between you and the world, back the world. --Kafka

                The Logic of Long Distance


                Think Whirled Peas

                  Sounds like you're giving it all you've got. Just try to keep it together, you're definitely riding that ragged edge. Keep us posted!

                  Just because running is simple does not mean it is easy.


                  S&M Collector

                    You rock, Len! I look forward to hearing how this goes for you. I need to follow suit and do some of this speed work stuff. Oh, and bring your taser to the monkey!
                    Come across any cool medals lately?
                    Len


                    Damn Yankee

                      Pussed out on my intervals yesterday, but ran them this morning. 6x800 with 300 m rest (200m before last interval) 3:16, 3:16, 3:14, 3:14, 3:15, 3:10 I honestly thought I was screwed after the first two, but I just kept running. Got impatient to start the last one, and ran it in 3:10. My perception is that the effort was no harder than two weeks ago. I'm gaining confidence, and think my goal may be within reach. MTA- Is this workout a realistic indicator of what I may be able to run in two weeks? Seems like it wouldn't be with the rests between intervals, but what the hell do I know.
                      Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending. Carl Bard
                        Dude! That's a great workout. Since your race is the 4th I think you want to make your last hard workout no later than the 25th. So that gives you possibly one more. If you do the 6 x 800 again, keep the recovery to 200m and aim for the same pace you ran today. mta: Doing the math, you don't have time to recover from this one and squeeze in another 6 x 800 workout. What you could do is next Tuesday or Wednesday do a 3-4 mile tempo run. Don't do it too hard, you want to finish feeling energized. Then on Monday the 30th (or Tuesday the 1st at the latest) you can do a little leg turnover workout. I like to do 10 x 300m at 5k pace with 100m jogs. This should feel like cake. If nothing else it will help you get a feel for how easy 5k pace should feel at the beginning of the race.
                          MTA- Is this workout a realistic indicator of what I may be able to run in two weeks? Seems like it wouldn't be with the rests between intervals, but what the hell do I know.
                          It's a good sign, lets put it that way. It's nearly impossible to predict race results from workouts unless you really know yourself--everyone is a little different in this regard. You may be a workout hero, or you may be like me and for some reason able to hit times in races that are much better than your workouts would indicate. I'm looking forward to seeing the results.


                          Think Whirled Peas

                            This should be fun to watch, Len! It's gonna be close! Puking post race is gonna be mandatory, methinks. Get pics.

                            Just because running is simple does not mean it is easy.

                            Happyfeet


                              Pardon me if this is a hijack, but I never get close to the puking, my legs start hurting long before I reach that stage (feel like shin splints) and I slow down. How do I push through that stage so I can experience the joy of dry heaving?
                                Pardon me if this is a hijack, but I never get close to the puking, my legs start hurting long before I reach that stage (feel like shin splints) and I slow down. How do I push through that stage so I can experience the joy of dry heaving?
                                I'm not sure puking should be the goal. I have no science to back this up but I think puking is usually a result of some kind of deficiency in training or really bad pacing or getting too stressed out by the intensity of racing...I knew kids who puked after races or even workouts in high school, but I never did. But I puked after my first few 5K's that I ever ran as an adult. Once I got past that, though, I have not come close to puking since and I've been able to push myself much harder at the end of races and workouts with practice than I ever could during my puking days. I'm not sure exactly what I did differently then versus now. I am definitely way fitter, and I'm much, much better at pacing. I also think I'm better psychologically at dealing with the intensity of racing. Honestly only at the very end of a 5k should you really feel like you're "pushing." The first mile you should feel like you're holding back slightly, the second you're kind of riding the edge but keeping things under control, at the start of the last mile you start to transition toward letting things get a little out of control and then, in the last 600m or so, just outright hurling yourself over the edge. It took a lot of practice racing 5k's before I ever got to the point of even being able to really push hard in the last 600m or so--up until that point I was just surviving the last mile or so, trying not to rig up and slow down too much.