2000 miles of spasmodic fucktardts 20200013

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    I think they are on Versus. MTA here's a schedule from the USATF website.

    Runners run.

      Thanks, Mike.
      Mishka


        Apparently it's here too. You get a one month subscription for $4.95.
          Jeff, If you are feeling the pain running 5-5:15 for your mile repeats, why don' t you cut the distance and do some shorter intervals at a quicker pace. I have found that running fast takes alot of practice and balance. It is sometimes easy to tell who is the stud when watching an elite track race because they make running fast look so easy. I can hardly beleive that they are dropping 60's with so much ease. If you do 200-800 meter repeats at say 4:40 pace for example, when you go back and attempt your mile repeats you should feel much more comfortable with the pace. Now that I am back to coaching my girls CC team, I am only able to run at my normal pace 2-3 times/week. Many of the workouts we do have several 8-10 minute miles in them. When we do hard intervals they are usually between 6-6:30 pace. When I get back to my own workouts in the afternoon or on their days off I can fly. The rest that I am getting is a huge benefit and on their hard days I am only at about 60-70% effort. Both factors seem to have helped me get back into form fast. I think you can do your mile repeats at 5:20 if you are wanting to run 5:35's, but I would also add in some real fast shorter work with a good amount of rest inbetween so that you are able to continually hit the time. Then give the miles another shot. One more thought. I had a girl who ran a national high school record in the 5k on the track. She was slow.............really she could barely run a 65 second quarter. What she lacked in speed she made up in endurance. Every 10 days she would run 14 miles at or near 7 min pace. On our hard workout days she ran the pace that she hoped to race at for 800's and 1000 meter repeats. I was always floored when she could match that pace for the whole 5k. She trained herself to run at closer to her top speed than any other girl in the country. Don't get greedy like I did, get your rest, hit it hard. If you are already hitting close to 5's for mile repeats you are definately fast enough to hit your 10 mile goal.
            Thanks, skinnyfish. You are responding to an old post--I bombed out at that race (in June), most likely due to the heat and overtraining. Since then I've slowed things down a bit and gone into a bit of recovery mode (and also dealing with very oppressive heat, that's about to break). I'm focused on a trail 50k the first week in October now, but after that I hope to really commit to the easy/hard philosophy you're talking about and take a shot at running some good 5k times. I don't know too much about triathlon times, but your running segments are looking SICK, considering they are coming after hard bikes and swims. I'm glad you're back in the swing of things.
              Anybody been following this thread? Marius, Dr. Daniels (jtupper), Canova, Pete; it's like the old days of letsrun. Canova's post today is sweet. Here's an excerpt:
              So, I cannot depend on the current attitudes of one athlete, but I go to explore new attitudes. Top athletes, as top coaches, are EXPLORERS in a land that don't know. If you fear to try something new, NEVER you can give to your body and your mind the stimula for improving. So, when I read a lot of discussion about VO2 max, Thresholds, Lactate, I understand that the main problem in the evolution of white athletes is THAT ATHLETICS, IN OUR COUNTRIES, BECAME LIKE MATHEMATICS : a lot of scientists, but no more instinct and no more heart. Athletes that want to control everything CANNOT OVERTAKE THEIR CURRENT LIMITS, and you can have stgimula in two directions only : OR YOU RUN FASTER, OR YOU RUN LONGER. The best thing is to do both the things. If in the race you want to run fast, in training you have to run fast (of course having care of your recovery). If in the race you have to run long distance, in training you have to run long distance. But, if you want to be competitive, YOU HAVE TO RUN LONG AND FAST at the same time, not only long-slow, and short-fast.@@
                That's a really good thread. I remember when the topic first got posted thinking the title alone could make it turn into a good one.

                Runners run.

                Scout7


                CPT Curmudgeon

                  As always with that site, there's some gems. The trick is separating the wheat from the copious chaff.
                    I know. I want to post Canova's post right below the talk about HR monitors on Eddy's thread. But that would make me mean and probably irrational. Why do HR monitors piss me off? Must be that dirty little hippie inside...
                      I don't know but they piss me off too. MTA: Those and pace bracelets. And pace groups. And the McMillan calculator.

                      Runners run.

                        Good answer, Jeff.

                        Runners run.

                          and pace bracelets. And pace groups. And the McMillan calculator.
                          Mikey is getting cranky from all them miles.
                            Good answer, Jeff.
                            Chenille just backed my rambling screed up with some actual science. Thanks!
                              Mikey is getting cranky from all them miles.
                              True, lets keep rolling with this. More running message board pet peeves: The 10% rule (HA!) Make sure to run your long run slow (DOUBLE HA!!) The long run, the long run, the long run Chi, Pose and other such snakeoil Cadence 18 week training programs Shoe mileage $130 shoes Rotating shoes Shoes iPods Fannypacks Owen Anderson To race fast you have to train fast To race fast you have to train slow Speedwork Carb/Fat/Protein ratios Hydration "systems" Energy foodlike substances, especially for runs under 2 hours There are probably a few people I haven't offended yet but I'll think of more as the day goes on....

                              Runners run.