The King of Beasts
Yall think too much. (fuck people - Really ??)
just read the last few paragraphs.
"As a dreamer of dreams and a travelin' man I have chalked up many a mile. Read dozens of books about heroes and crooks, And I've learned much from both of their styles." ~ Jimmy Buffett
"I don't see much sense in that," said Rabbit. "No," said Pooh humbly, "there isn't. But there was going to be when I began it. It's just that something happened to it along the way."”
mileage hound
There are ethnic differences not only in disease susceptibility, but also in the polymorphisms associated with disease in one ethnic group versus another. If these differences exist, I am fairly sure that some genetic component is at play when it comes to athletic performance between ethnic groups (as well as between individuals).
Yes. One factor that frustrates the design of pharmaceutical clinical trials is that race is known to correlate poorly with genetic background. Scientific fact. Sure, there is some correlation, but it's not awfully strong in most populations.
2013 goals: Kick some arse. Moreso than 2012.
"If you want to be a bad a$s, then do what a bad a$s does. There's your pep talk for today. Go Run." -- Slo_Hand
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Yall think too much. (fuck people - Really ??) just read the last few paragraphs.
I can't run. I have to do something.
Totally, and (sorry for the MTA, but the genetic studies I refer to are ones that generally compare cases and controls within a group of individuals from the same geographical area and with an apparent same "race"...and then, when another geographical and ethnic group is studied, a lack of association with that polymorphism is found...still suggesting a difference in the genetic background of these particular groups, but not trying to suggest that if you were to sequence the genome of individual X you could define their race). However I still think that the fact that disease-associated polymorphisms can differ between individuals still indicates that if you take a group of elite Kenyan runners and compare them to a group of elite runners from elsewhere, there still are likely to be some combination of genetic factors at play as well as environmental, biological, epigenetic factors that will be responsible for differences in overall potential (although, arguably, the between group variation in the Kenyan elites will still be huge, and different combinations of haplotypes will be at play). Thankfully (or maybe not in terms of my likelihood to do anything important) I don't work in the pharma industry or in drug development or clinical trials, that's got to be a complicated series of study designs. I did do a lot of work in genetics though, and it is definitely a field that is becoming more complex and frustrating to unravel (although this can be said for most things biological). I get frustrated still by the constant "gene for disorder X, Y or Z discovered" articles, especially when the associated polymorphism (not friggin' gene) is present in maybe 60% of controls v 63% of disease sufferers, so on and so forth.
I won't say any more in case it upsets A1.
"Don't walk in front of me; I may not follow. Don't walk behind me; I may not lead. Just walk beside me and be my friend."
Is there a cankle gene?
The process is the goal.
Men heap together the mistakes of their lives, and create a monster they call Destiny.
Heh.
If there is a genetic variant predisposing to cankles then I'm an unlucky beggar because my parents and grandparents are/were free of this heinous affliction. Maybe it's some in utero issue because my Mum ate too many bananas or didn't run enough during pregnancy.
If my husband and I ever procreate I pity any kids if they do get hit with the cankle abnormality. My husband is worried enough about his hand being heritable, but I think the cankles would be far worse. They're fugly. It literally looks like my leg has an entire section missing and someone just shoved on a foot because they couldn't be arsed to look for the ankle section.
One of my wife's best friends, and college room mate, has a pretty advanced case of the cankles. A condition she developed through years of being a girl scout leader, it is beleived. While she wasn't a runner, she was Paula Radcliffe's PE teacher for a number of years and fortunately didn't pass the cankles to Paula.
I don't think mine are scout leader related, but remind me never to get involved with the scouts in case the condition worsens. Being Paula's PE teacher is a very cool claim to fame (and more than makes up for cankles).
Milktruck say relentless
Trent admires the heck out of your arms though....so you have that going for you.
Proofread carefully to see if you any words out.
" ..that corner has narrowed to a half-nekkid egyptian wandering about in the cold new jersey nighttime."~ R2E
guys running London:
http://www.letsrun.com/2011/londonmen-0413.php
good read.
Pretty nice:
Great discussion! Real wisdom from the elders. Thanks Hodgie-san and Tom D. Thanks, too, Malmo, for the deep drill-down in your statistical analysis. A little more patience with the idiots, as you're (immensely) fond of calling them, might be a good thing. But you're good with the numbers, and this is a great thread.Meta-analysis?1) The tailwind played a large and undeniable role in the results. As someone once said to the whore in an old locker-room joke, "We've already established that. We're just arguing over the price." (A man asked a woman if he'd sleep with her for a million dollars. She smiled and said "Sure, baby." He then asked if she'd sleep with him for $25. She sneered and said, "What do you think I am, a whore?") 1a) But the precise advantage conferred by the tailwind--3:40? 2:30? "somewhere between three and four minutes"--is and will always be a matter of debate. (The idiots will always be wrong, of course.) And Mutai and Hall, among others, are clearly invested--as brilliant creative artists often are--in minimizing the effects of the environment (in this case, the tailwind-help) and focusing on individual initiative and achievement. Forgive them. There's a method in their madness. God help you if you just don't get this point. Somebody in the next town who gets it is having a good damned time--and running faster times than you, too. 2) Boston has proved itself, over many decades, to be a slower-than-average course, despite the net altitude drop. This is why very few WRs have been set there. The hills are part of this--or have traditionally been assumed to be a part of this. 3) This year's results on the "slower-than-average course," which include a world-best (but not WR) and American-best (but not AR) create a huge interpretive mess: the perfect storm for professional marathon kibbitzers. This one will be argued for the next hundred years. 4) 90%+ of those making arguments for one interpretation or another tend to work from either/or rather than both/and logics. Nobody, for example, has suggested that the tailwind--the knowledge on the part of Hall and the other front-runners that the tailwind would be with them the whole time--might have contributed to a throw-caution-to-the-wind strategy that enabled better-than-average results. (Malmo's statistical regressions, for example, fail to allow for such an effect.) In other words, it might be a good idea to remember that the word "inspire" derives from the Latin root "to breathe." Great runners aren't just aided physically by the presence of a tailwind; they're inspired by that wind. They're goaded--as Hall was--into taking risks; into trying for more than they've ever tried for.Both/and. Allow it. It feels good. And of course the full moon occured at 4:44 AM on Boston Marathon Monday. A perfect storm, indeed.
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The Logic of Long Distance
I think a 2:05-2:06 on a Berlinish type course
But to me more importantly is if this changes the psychy of any of the elites - Maybe is they believe low 2:03 or high 2:02 is not that far away - It won't be. Let's hope!
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2013 Goals ~ Mar < 3:00, 5M < 29, 10k < 35
http://chrunners.net/forum/index.php?topic=54342.0
Wait. There are other messageboards??? And Ilene is on some of them???
Also, that was funny.
Runners run.
I thought this was a good read.
http://running.competitor.com/2011/05/features/what-ever-happened-to-daniel-komen_27486
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