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    Very true, although in this case the OP is a sub-3:30 marathoner who sometimes runs his "easy" days at faster than marathon pace.  Still a bit quick unless that marathon PR is awfully soft.
      Enlighten me o great training guru's:


      Training for Boston,   February was a wash due to an some calf issues so my sub 3 went out the window.    


      Plan is to do 20 miles tomorrow but beyond that I don't have much of a plan.


      Ideas on what I should be doing for the next three weeks  in terms of training? 






      Was it all a dream?

        New here and jumping into the fray.

         

        While I don't have an exact idea of my current fitness, I have a sense I am at a higher level. I need to run a race or time-trial. Save for a trail race and 50k road race, I haven't "raced" since Jan 29 in a two-mile time trial.

         

        I'm aiming to peak at a marathon Apr 25 (under 5 weeks to go) and looking to sharpen up a bit. In Feb I got a few weeks of T-pace done on the TM. More recently I've got a few intervals sets.

         

        Anyone want to give me a suggestion for workouts for my remaining weeks until my marathon. Say, if I ran one quality workout per week and one long run, what would you suggest?

         

        Thanks!

         

        I'd suggest focusing on HMP and MP pace in workouts over the final month.  Here are a few workouts I like to do: 60min tempo @ MP, 3 x 2mi @ 10k to HMP w/ 2min rec, 2 x 4mi @ MP w/ 5min rec, 3mi @ MP w/ 5 x 1min On/off.

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          I just saw this.  Don't cross the streams like that if you want me to actually respond.

           

          It was just a quick observation.  My easy days are generally close to 90 seconds slower than my marathon pace, sometimes much more.  tschepsit seems to have a lot of easy runs that are within a couple seconds of his marathon pace.  But then he mentioned he considers his marathon PR soft so there's that, so it's probably his marathon pace not his easy pace that's out of whack.

           

          Ah, thanks.  Yeah, I didn't want to derail a thread about him into a thread about me.

           

          I'll just keep rolling along at my current easy pace.  Maybe after a few months, I'll find out it wasn't so easy after all. Maybe not.   

           

          MTA: I don't know if my MP is soft since I'm not yet a marathoner.  But, rolling at 90s plus whatever happened on that day just doesn't seem right for me.  

           

           


          Swamp Turtle

             

            Ah, thanks.  Yeah, I didn't want to derail a thread about him into a thread about me.

             

            I'll just keep rolling along at my current easy pace.  Maybe after a few months, I'll find out it wasn't so easy after all. Maybe not.   

             

            MTA: I don't know if my MP is soft since I'm not yet a marathoner.  But, rolling at 90s plus whatever happened on that day just doesn't seem right for me.  

             

             

             

            According to the Daniels pace chart, based on your last 5K, your MP should be around 7:40 per mile and your easy pace should be around 8:58 per mile.  

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                  Race a 5k.

                  TT will work, but many have trouble putting forth a best effort with no competition.

                  You might be able to handle one week from your marathon. Should be OK.

                  It's only an indicator. Good benchmark for the future, too.

                   

                  Yes, a 5k would be my first choice. I couldn't get to one so I considered the TT, which didn't happen. I got all wound up on Friday afternoon to do it but the HS had practice going on. No go.

                   

                  In seasons past, the 5k one week out from marathon has been my MO. In 2008, I hit 17:4x eight days before MCM. Indeed, the 5k result gave me confidence in the marathon.

                   

                   

                   

                  I'd suggest focusing on HMP and MP pace in workouts over the final month.  Here are a few workouts I like to do: 60min tempo @ MP, 3 x 2mi @ 10k to HMP w/ 2min rec, 2 x 4mi @ MP w/ 5min rec, 3mi @ MP w/ 5 x 1min On/off.

                   

                  Thanks. All sound good like good threshold efforts. Last year I did the 4x 2mi @ T-pace about 10 days before a goal HM. I ended up running the HM at that T-pace.

                   

                  I still have some figuring out on what workouts to do in the remaining 3.5 weeks. I'll consider these.


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                    This is still the Training Thread, and I sorta want to throw something out there.

                     

                    does anyone ever plan on running the first (or maybe second if its shorter than a mile) interval a little slower than your goal pace for the workout.  I have been doing this, say add 10 seconds to the first mile, almost as a stiff warmup.  the first one hurts worst, so why not manage expectations and run it a little slower.

                     

                    it might be worth a try.

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                      I typically run the first interval slowest, last fastest.  If you can't do that you're doing it wrong and going into severe lactate accumulation.  The spread is not much, maybe 3-4sec in an 8X800.


                      I'm not a fan of doing much training at MP.  It's kind of in no man's land, decent for building strength but there are a lot better bangs for your buck in terms of building aerobic ability.

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                        Yep, it's a good thought. I guess I expect the first one to be the slowest, like spaniel, and take what I get. Nice workout, a1!

                           

                          I just wish I could add to this thread.

                           

                          Marathon in 2 weeks time.  No running for 4 weeks.  Dreams in tatters.

                           

                          Being an idiot... I will run it.  I will not even attempt to achieve my goal time though.  Likely to go for a 3 1/2 hr jog.

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                            Likely to go for a 3 1/2 hr jog.

                             

                            That's a coincidence, I am hoping to get a 3 1/2 hour jog in later this year.

                            The jogger formerly known as MrPHinNJ

                               

                              That's a coincidence, I am hoping to get a 3 1/2 hour jog in later this year.

                               

                              I didn't mean to sound all EP.

                               

                              Actually.... of course I did.

                               

                              How far are you hoping to cover in your 3 1/2hr jog?

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                                How far are you hoping to cover in your 3 1/2hr jog?

                                 

                                13.1 miles.

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