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It used to be the case that if someone friend-requested you, you could view their profile without having to accept the request. You wouldn't have to accept or decline the request and still be able to see their profile. I don't know if this is still true.
It also used to be, and may still be (I gave fb the boot in March, and life mo bettah) that if someone sent you a request and you let it linger without saying yea, nay, or disappearing it, YOUR profile and wall and stuff would be more available to them at least for viewing. Subject, of course, to the myriad of settings and whatnot that lots of people don't fuck with because the UI is goofy, their naming doesn't always make sense, and they don't make it easily discoverable wrt how x affects y.
Maybe they've changed that.
I also never knew the definition of 'etiquette' before this thread. I'm glad to hear it isn't related my pinkie and drinking tea.
And once again Mr. Wizard (aka: Stevie Ray) explains the internet.
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It also used to be, and may still be (I gave fb the boot in March, and life mo bettah)
You're a veritable model of authentic, real-world, off-line living, Stevie Ray...
I'm happy, hope you're happy too...
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i had fb for a couple three years, then i quit it and didn't look back. not that i don't get why folks use it... it simply doesn't serve a purpose in my life.
i find the sunshine beckons me to open up the gate and dream and dream ~~robbie williams
Nice. I never said I went off the grid. But dumping facebook still goodness, and for some folks it kind of IS like being off the grid.
(including sometimes my own family. Plus. And minus.)
I'm not a meth dealer but, eh, I figure the upside outweighs the downside.
There is no upside. You really do not want to know.
Install key-logging software on her PC if you are seriously concerned.
The process is the goal.
Men heap together the mistakes of their lives, and create a monster they call Destiny.
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Just curious--what's the rationale behind the personal 18 and over FB policy?
For me it is just I've had people post things, not really inappropriate, more funny or joking . I wouldnt be offended but I am not going to monitor it for other people's kids. It's just easier to make a flat policy than risk offending an overly sensitive parent by denying HER child when that is probably the same parent who gets offended when people make jokes about "BJ's morning" (coffee shop)That being said, when my daughter is a teenager, my policy will likely change
I have become Death, the destroyer of electronic gadgets
"When I got too tired to run anymore I just pretended I wasnt tired and kept running anyway" - dd, age 7
So i'm not old and parent-like yet like you people... but I would think there is absolutely no downside to Mikey accepting a request from his daughters male friend. Kids are stupid. It may be a great way to spy on your daughter. He will forget he added you because he probably has like 5000 FB friends....and he won't filter his posts. If they're close friends, and there's something you need to find out, you'll find out. Then they'll be all "OMG! How'd you know??" My sister is 16. Some of her friends have added me on FB. I've seen all kinds of shit that my sister has been involved in. The little stuff i've let go. The bigger stuff i've told my Mom.
Trusting your teenager is overrated. Seriously. Add their friends. Do it now.
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Nice. I never said I went off the grid. But dumping facebook still goodness, and for some folks it kind of IS like being off the grid. (including sometimes my own family. Plus. And minus.)
Sorry if that came off as too snarky...not my intention.
Personally, though, I see little difference between here, Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, DailyMile, RWOL...pick your poison. Obviously, for you, losing FB seems to have been a good thing. When I get bored of it, I just step back and post/read less. I'm not sure it detracts much from my life, and it gives me a way to easily share pics of the kids with the grandparents, so I keep it around...
Milktruck say relentless
Facebook etiquette is an oxymoron. The entire function of etiquette is protection against the invasion of privacy through the establishment of limits on communication. Facebook actively and aggressively seeks to make all private life as public as possible: to make your FACE into a BOOK to be read and re-read. Etiquette conceals. Facebook reveals. If you value etiquette, you can't participate in Facebook. It's really that simple.
Facebook etiquette is an oxymoron. The entire function of etiquette is protection against the invasion of privacy through the establishment of limits on communication. Facebook actively and aggressively seeks to make all private life as public as possible: to make your FACE into a BOOK to be read and re-read. Etiquette conceals. Facebook reveals.
If you value etiquette, you can't participate in Facebook. It's really that simple.
I manage to keep my private life pretty private even though I am on facebook.....I mean, my cat has a facebook account.
Proofread carefully to see if you any words out.
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but I would think there is absolutely no downside to Mikey accepting a request from his daughters male friend.
Good point. You got me. I can't think of one possible downside to knowing what goes through a young boys mind in relation to his daughter.
To me, the question isn't why would mikey accept the request but why was the request given in the first place.
Because kids are stupid. He was probably all "Hey, i'm gonna add Ali's dad. He's cool." because I assume Mikey is known as one of the cool dads. Then the kid forgets there is a dad on his facebook...and BOOM. Everyone's grounded.
Sorry if that came off as too snarky...not my intention. Personally, though, I see little difference between here, Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, DailyMile, RWOL...pick your poison. Obviously, for you, losing FB seems to have been a good thing. When I get bored of it, I just step back and post/read less. I'm not sure it detracts much from my life, and it gives me a way to easily share pics of the kids with the grandparents, so I keep it around...
Well, I don't use twitter or tumblr either. I get what you are saying, but I also think there's a long list of reasons/aspects that makes facebook different (and in my case potentially creepier) than RA or RWOL (RIP). But the funny thing is, when it gets down to it, the last straw regarding why I pulled the pin on facebook was continued annoyance/drama being caused by my gigantic running club (the maniacs) in facebook as well as people like chuck. Which, because it is facebook, no matter how much you try to disregard it and block folks and unjoin groups, it still seeps in via friends and pics and "did you hear..." bullshit. So ultimately it WAS the same kind of faux dramatic bullshit we have here. But 1) at a much grander scale, 2) from lots of directions, like pissed off horseflies, 3) the folks using facebook just have a different sense of right/wrong appropriate/inappropriate dumbass/smartass etc than the folks here. Not better, just different. I guess that gets into etiquette vs "etiquette".
My dad is 82. Someone got the bright idea of getting him an iphone and a fb account. He's a total menace, completely unintentionally. Because he just clicks on stuff. And accepts friend requests from people he doesn't know. Etc. I try to clean it out every couple months but holy shit.
Don't know where I was going with that, just venting. Oh, "kids are stupid". Yeah, a lot of people (mostly kids) seem to be friend collectors on fb. They add folks to increase their count. A lot of the randoms on my dad's list are kids who got to him via a grandkid. WTF.
Which, BTW, I'm pretty sure a couple of you got friend requests from my dad. Sigh. Lo siento mucho. And another good reason for me to be off fb. My dad can't annoy you.
Because kids are stupid. He was probably all "Hey, i'm gonna add Ali's dad. He's cool." because I assume Mikey is known as one of the cool dads.
It was something like this.
Actually the kid along with a few other of my daughter's friends were in my basement last night at the time when I noticed I had a friend request from him. So I went down stairs and said, "Hey, Ian, did you mean to friend me on facebook? or did one of these guys grab your iPod and do it to mess with you?"
Turned out he meant to. He's a good kid, a runner no less. I know his dad pretty well and have met his mom. Not seeing a ton of risk of there being a creepy factor.
Runners run.
I'll get right on that. Then I'll install it on my wife's PC, all the iPods in the house and all of the PC's at the highschool school and in all of the PC's/Macs/Tablets and other devices in all of my daughter's friends' homes. This might take a while.
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