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It's all in the feet (Read 358 times)

    I know serious posts can be frowned upon, but I like this place.  

    For the most part I've been trying to figure out my foot arthritis issue out on my own, but it's a guessing game.

    I have moderate arthritis in my first MTP (right big toe joint).  Got the go ahead to run from my orthopedic md who is also on my racing team.

    Yes there's less space between my joints and will experience inflammation and pain at time, but the bones spurs are not causing impinging damage (for now). 

     

    OK sweet - game on.  I'm out of shape, a few pound over weight but I can run.   I train at a community center over lunch and there are two trainers who are knowledgeable and I do trust them but please stop watching me run on the TM and tell me how I'm landing, pushing off or where my legs needs to go.  I've been working on proper form, foot landing and posture for years.  Based on the bone formation of my right foot it may be impossible to land perfect so get over it.

     

    I've read articles of runners of all abilities who lack proper form and do all right.  I'm still about finding the better way to run, don't get me wrong, but attempting to make ratical changes to my gait feels like a disaster in the making.  Am I right?

     

    I've put all my PRs on the shelf and just want to start from scratch, is that too much to ask?

     

    I'm on 20(ish) miles a week as I'm still dealing with healing from a fall injury that brought all this injury about.  I got time and a chance for a fall marathon right?  I'm in no position to take on Pfitz or Hanson, but any input on where to start after coming off a major injury and struggling to run paces that used to be effortless?  Just want to run 2000 miles a year in the swamp.

    R2E


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      i am no expert, but i would say just keep trying stuff until you find what works. different shoes, different socks, maybe even eating something different or taking a supplement or running on grass, cinder, rubber track, dirt trails. i know you've tried it all, but you might have to try it all again. also, for arthritis, there are shots such as synvisc (? i think?) that can offer some joint cushioning where nature has let you down.

       

      good luck!

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      Milktruck say relentless

        Holy COW!  I agree with everything R2E just posted!    Shocked

         

        Shoes with a roomy toe box and lots of cushioning, and just run some every day.  Building it up; pace and distance by feel.  You will be strong and fast 'cause that's how you roll!  Smile

         

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        ~ R2E

          Tough stuff, Willie, but you're tough, too. 

           

          To what Illene said, Mizuno makes some great shoes in terms of cushioning and toe-box room. I see you're into Nike, but maybe a trip to the running store for a new fitting would help?

           

          To what R2E said, how about mixing in some more treadmill running? I see you run some one the Woodway treadmill. I ran a few times on that one and it was kind of weird.  I almost swear it was more bad for my lower legs than good. For people like you and me, it's the feet and lower legs that "act up."


          Alive & Running

            I think you're getting it figured out Willie.  Doing just fine as far as I can tell.  You running with the gang on Sunday?  I might be able to join.  If so, I'll run your pace.

             



            In it for the long run..

              Willie- take a look at Altra shoes.  The toe box is awesome and they are zero drop but very cushioned and light.  Otherwise, I hope you can get this licked.  I'm sure you can.  Building back after an injury is a specialty of mine.  I have had good luck with low heartrate training, but it can be frustrating.  It is important to keep the pace easy while you build up the mileage, though.

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              Fast is better than long

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                I cant address arthritis or what it does/may do. If you are in running mode and can handle the pain and inflamation, you'll be able to run back into running shape quickly. This is specific to you. You seldom get out of shape and while you say you're a pound overweight and blah blah, you are oftyen in the gym doing exercise that keeps your heart in shape. You should come back slow, but you'll notice very quickly that you'll move from a Higdon couch to marathon program back to a more agressive program very quickly. You'll progress geomatrically vs. linearly. That said, IMO, our wisdom is what keeps us in the game, so make every effort to know the days NOT to run and try to honor them.

                 

                I also imagine that fast running (which is so easy to you) probably flexes your feet more than that dreaded slow running (icky). I think the note here is that the power that moves through your feet at speed, can probably accelerate the wear and tear process.

                 

                Anecdotally, I think the body seems to compensate for itself, so while the bones and tendony thingies are showing signs of stress, moderate build up can cause muscles to stand in for their deficiencies. Even before highschool, I had most of the ligaments in my right knee shredded, and while it was super weak at first, a long slow build up in exercise caused it to be running worthy again.

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                  Thanks everyone! GREAT input R2E. I will be visiting my local running store this weekend and in search of a shoe with bigger toe box.  I like my Nikes but I'm also aware of the narrow toe box.  Doc initially said I could wear post op shoes which are stiff, but I said I can wear Nike Free walking and have no issues.  Well how do you manage that she asked?  I dunno, I just do and hoping it makes my feet stronger.  Maybe I can strenghen the rest of my feet to keep the bones happy.  Good to hear agreement there, so I'm right there with you PaulyG

                   

                  Softer grounds (minus the gnarly trail part) does seem most agreeable but I dont' have access to thos during the week and with winter here I may have to resort to TM more often.  

                   

                  Nader - Woodway TM.  Love this treadmill and it's the easiest on my body so make the best use of that as I can.

                   

                  Don - Yes I'm there for Sunday's run.  Like to get in 10-12 miles.  My pace is usually pedestrian to start with but if I'm running with all of you, I'll just suck it up till I feel more comfortable at that pace..or just back off if need be.

                   

                  So here goes HStreet - start easy with Low HR training..sounds slow and dull but want to be on a starting line ready for something sooner rather than later. 

                   

                  Thanks again, carry on Wink

                    ..........For the most part I've been trying to figure out my foot arthritis issue out on my own, but it's a guessing game.

                     

                    Did this as well. For me it was the shoes. Plus, my feet have gotten wider?


                    A Saucy Wench

                       I'm in no position to take on Pfitz or Hanson, but any input on where to start after coming off a major injury and struggling to run paces that used to be effortless?  Just want to run 2000 miles a year in the swamp.

                       

                      Quit struggling to run paces that used to be effortless.  Stay off the TM if you use one until you find what the new effortless is.

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                      "When I got too tired to run anymore I just pretended I wasnt tired and kept running anyway" - dd, age 7

                        Quit struggling to run paces that used to be effortless.  Stay off the TM if you use one until you find what the new effortless is.

                         

                        Sounds way more fun Wink  Thanks Ennay.

                         

                        so is it payday yet so I can try on some new steppers?

                          I can't add any thing to what has been said but I wish you much luck with it, Willie.

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                            I can't add any thing to what has been said but I wish you much luck with it, Willie.

                             

                            +1. Joints that don't work right suck.

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