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Jeff

posted: 3/25/2009 at 1:50 PM

Quote from Amores Perros on 3/25/2009 at 12:28 PM:

What's that mean, it destroys talent?

It breaks you. It shakes you. It crushes you. It saps you. It leaves you trembling. Fries your brain. Withers your legs. Gives you that long-off stare. It chains you. Frames you. Claims you. It's a puzzle that you only get a chance to solve every 6 months. If you don't get injured. If conditions are right. If you don't go out too fast. If you don't go out too slow. If you recover from your training. If you train hard enough. If you happen to be "on" that day. If you are able to reach your true self in the last 10k. If.... So IF you want to know your true level of talent, then be a 5ker or a miler. You can master these events. But the marathon cannot be mastered. No one runs to his potential in the marathon. And even if you did, you wouldn't know THAT WAS THE RACE until after your last marathon had already broken you and then it would be too late. If you want to master the marathon, good luck. The marathon destroys talent. It doesn't create it.

In the fight between you and the world, back the world. --Kafka

The Logic of Long Distance

mikeymike

posted: 3/25/2009 at 1:53 PM

Plus there's that goddam fire station and it's magical force field of broken dreams. Marathons are stupid.

Happyfeet

posted: 3/25/2009 at 1:56 PM

A few faster marathoners I know all say the Half marathon is their favorite distance. Long enough that you can't fake it, but short enough that it does not leave you hobbling for days after.

Ileneforward

Imaginary Space Filler

posted: 3/25/2009 at 2:37 PM

Quote from Jeff on 3/25/2009 at 1:50 PM:

It breaks you. It shakes you. It crushes you. It saps you. It leaves you trembling. Fries your brain. Withers your legs. Gives you that long-off stare. It chains you. Frames you. Claims you. It's a puzzle that you only get a chance to solve every 6 months. If you don't get injured. If conditions are right. If you don't go out too fast. If you don't go out too slow. If you recover from your training. If you train hard enough. If you happen to be "on" that day. If you are able to reach your true self in the last 10k. If.... So IF you want to know your true level of talent, then be a 5ker or a miler. You can master these events. But the marathon cannot be mastered. No one runs to his potential in the marathon. And even if you did, you wouldn't know THAT WAS THE RACE until after your last marathon had already broken you and then it would be too late. If you want to master the marathon, good luck. The marathon destroys talent. It doesn't create it.

Tell this to ShanGen. Big grin

"Life is short...Running makes it seem longer." - Baron Hansen

"An ounce of performance is worth pounds of promises." ~ Mae West

Amores Perros

What does Tunis make?

posted: 3/25/2009 at 2:49 PM

Actually I wish I had another marathon; I've been enjoying them. (Maybe that means I'm not racing them as hard as you all do, or as hard as elite runners do.)

It's a 5k. It hurt like hell...then I tried to pick it up. The end.

Jeff

posted: 3/25/2009 at 3:34 PM

Quote from Ileneforward on 3/25/2009 at 2:37 PM:

Tell this to ShanGen.

Good point. But... ShanGen would be the first to tell you, I think, that she's come nowhere near maximizing her talent. And, if she decides that she wants to maximize her talent as a distance runner, at some point she will have to spend 3 or 4 years working on the 5k/10k. I think the simpler and less dramatic point that Magill is trying to make is that you don't see elite marathoners moving down to become elite 5kers. If Bekele had been a marathoner before a 5ker, he never would have run deep into the 12's. The 5k is the race that teaches you how to run fast. The marathon is the race where you take that lesson as far as it will go.

In the fight between you and the world, back the world. --Kafka

The Logic of Long Distance

Chaloo

posted: 3/25/2009 at 4:37 PM
modified: 3/25/2009 at 4:43 PM

Quote from Jeff on 3/25/2009 at 1:50 PM:

It breaks you. It shakes you. It crushes you. It saps you. It leaves you trembling. Fries your brain. Withers your legs. Gives you that long-off stare. It chains you. Frames you. Claims you. It's a puzzle that you only get a chance to solve every 6 months. If you don't get injured. If conditions are right. If you don't go out too fast. If you don't go out too slow. If you recover from your training. If you train hard enough. If you happen to be "on" that day. If you are able to reach your true self in the last 10k. If.... So IF you want to know your true level of talent, then be a 5ker or a miler. You can master these events. But the marathon cannot be mastered. No one runs to his potential in the marathon. And even if you did, you wouldn't know THAT WAS THE RACE until after your last marathon had already broken you and then it would be too late. If you want to master the marathon, good luck. The marathon destroys talent. It doesn't create it.

It's quotes like these, that only come up once every few weeks, that keep me in swamp every day. As a new runner, Jeff, you are my Yoda.

Veronica and I trying this new fad called uh, jogging. I believe it's jogging or yogging. it might be a soft j. I'm not sure but apparently you just run for an extended period of time. It's supposed to be wild.

MrH

posted: 4/8/2009 at 5:12 PM

http://petemagill.blogspot.com/2009/04/morning-read-twelve-step-recovery.html

The process is the goal.

Men heap together the mistakes of their lives, and create a monster they call Destiny

HStreet

In it for the long run..

posted: 4/8/2009 at 9:07 PM

Jeff- When were you at Rice and what college were you in?

"It's not who wins the workout..." This Century PRs 5K 25:05 10K 52:34 1/2 M 1:53:58 Marathon 4:08:28

mgerwn

posted: 4/8/2009 at 11:13 PM

The more I read from him the more I want to read from him.

"There has never been a run I have regretted heading out for; there have been plenty of runs I have regretted not going out for." (DgRosen)

mikeymike

posted: 4/9/2009 at 8:18 AM

I'm a subscriber.

Jeff

posted: 4/9/2009 at 8:49 AM

Quote from HStreet on 4/8/2009 at 9:07 PM:

Jeff- When were you at Rice and what college were you in?

Jones College, 1995-96. You an Owl?

In the fight between you and the world, back the world. --Kafka

The Logic of Long Distance

HStreet

In it for the long run..

posted: 4/9/2009 at 10:41 AM

Daughter was Hanszen '07. She started at Rice with Steve Magness (she is not a competitive runner) and I follow Rice (and Texas) track.

"It's not who wins the workout..." This Century PRs 5K 25:05 10K 52:34 1/2 M 1:53:58 Marathon 4:08:28

Jeff

posted: 4/9/2009 at 10:42 AM

Quote from HStreet on 4/9/2009 at 10:41 AM:

Daughter was Hanszen '07. She started at Rice with Steve Magness (she is not a competitive runner) and I follow Rice (and Texas) track.

Cool. Jon Warren was great. A really nice guy and an excellent coach. I did not leave because of the XC and track program: those were the reasons I wanted to stay. You daughter must be very smart. Wink

In the fight between you and the world, back the world. --Kafka

The Logic of Long Distance

jEfFgObLuE

More Cowbell!

posted: 4/9/2009 at 11:01 AM
modified: 4/9/2009 at 11:02 AM

Quote from mikeymike on 4/9/2009 at 8:18 AM:

I'm a subscriber.

You subscribe to a blog? Amazing turn of events in light of... MikeyMike 4/16/08

Quote from mikeymike on 4/16/2008 at 3:00 PM:

One of my goals in life is to never know why I should give a rats ass about RSS or any other blog-type technical gobbly gook.

20th Century: Is ancient history
21st Century: 5k: 19:42 |10k: 43:00

2000 miles of dating 35000 yr olds

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