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Is it possible certain people are just more injury prone than others? (Read 110 times)

kristin10185


Skirt Runner

    Is it possible for certain people to just be injury prone? Any reasons? I've ALWAYS been injury prone. Always. I did a lot of sports as a kid and I got injured a bunch including stress fracturing my right foot 3 times in middle school and high school and having resulting nerve damage. The summer after I graduated college I tore my right quad playing adult co-ed softball running to first base on a fly ball....that went foul. Since I began running I've had plenty of injuries including ITBS, shin splints and now whatever the eff is going on with my left foot (tentatively diagnosed with a cuboid stress fracture until tests can confirm). When I got physical therapy for my ITBS with an excellent sports PT he was amazed at my body mechanics and how incredibly tight certain muscle groups are. And I work hard at flexibility with regular stretching and yoga. My massage therapist seems to concur, telling me I have the tightest calves, quads, hamstrings and feet she has ever felt as well as an incredibly high pain tolerance. Is it possible that my body is just ridiculously injury prone? I'm just really upset and miserable and wondering if I'm destined for a life of injuries if I stay active. I'm young (28) so age isn't really a factor, I should be more resilient I would think.... Sigh.

    PRs:   5K- 28:16 (5/5/13)      10K- 1:00:13 (10/27/13)    4M- 41:43 (9/7/13)   15K- 1:34:25  (8/17/13)    10M- 1:56:30 (4/6/14)     HM- 2:20:16 (4/13/14)     Full- 5:55:33 (11/1/15)

     

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    FreeSoul87


    Runs4Sanity

      I actually think they have articles on this, some people are injury prone, some are more injury prone than others, some are slightly injury prone and then you've got the lucky ones who are hardly ever injured.

      *Do It For Yourself, Do It Because They Said It Was Impossible, Do It Because They Said You Were Incapable*

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      5k - 24:15 (7:49 min/mile pace) 

      10k - 51:47 (8:16 min/mile pace)

      15k -1:18:09 (8:24 min/mile pace)

      13.1 - 1:53:12 (8:39 min/mile pace)

       26:2 - 4:14:55 (9:44 min/mile)

      Awood_Runner


      Smaller By The Day

        The NBA player, Greg Oden is a prime example.

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        5K 31:02 Sept. 2012 / 23:36 Sept. 2013 (Same Course)

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        HM 2:03:56 Nov. 2012 / 1:46:50 March 2013

        MARATHON 3:57:33 Nov. 2013

        Love the Half


          I have recently become very skeptical of PT's.  I'm betting not a damn one of them would view the running of Priscah Jeptoo or Paula Radcliffe without opining how horrible they run.  Yet, all they do is win.  Hmmmm.

          Short term goal: 17:59 5K

          Mid term goal:  2:54:59 marathon

          Long term goal: To say I've been a runner half my life.  (I started running at age 45).

          kristin10185


          Skirt Runner

            LTH- my PT didn't have an issue with the way I run he had an issue with my body. My hips are externally rotates and really far forward in the hip socket, putting extra strain on my already tight hamstrings. I have ridiculously tight hips, calves, and feet. I have flat feet, almost no ankle flexibility , and overpronate. I doubt he'd have had an issue with my running style, it was more that the way my body was structured makes running efficiently and injury free difficult.

            PRs:   5K- 28:16 (5/5/13)      10K- 1:00:13 (10/27/13)    4M- 41:43 (9/7/13)   15K- 1:34:25  (8/17/13)    10M- 1:56:30 (4/6/14)     HM- 2:20:16 (4/13/14)     Full- 5:55:33 (11/1/15)

             

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            SusanRachel


              Of course some people are more injury prone than others.  I would love to be like Michelle or Jenny and run 100 miles/week, but I just can't.  Every time I get my mileage over 25ish miles/week, bad things happen, so I keep it under 25 miles/week.  I would rather run some than run a lot for a few months and none for a few months.

                Other than some shin splints and PF, I'm one of those who is apparently not injury prone. HS track hurdles, and soccer. Horseback riding and skiing my whole life. Never had a broken bone, never seen a doctor for any sports injury. One time my horse wiped out on me and landed on my knee. Missed a couple days of work, was sore for a few weeks, but it seemed to get better on its own. That was decades ago. I've skied (as an instructor, so a lot), and run, since. I did get fat in recent years and so am getting back into running, and hope my luck continues. I drink a lot of milk, not sure if that helps or what. Probably genetics, milk, luck, and maybe not trying as hard as other backyard athletes Smile
                Love the Half


                  I agree with Susan.

                   

                  Everyone has a limit on how much training they can endure without getting injured.  One of the things that makes really good runners really good is that they can tolerate training 10-12 hours per week.  For elite runners, that means 100-120 miles per week.  For good recreational runners, it means 70-90 miles per week.  Other people can't tolerate that level of stress.  Maybe they get injured if they run more than 7-8 hours per week.  Others may not be able to run more than 2-3 hours per week.  We get frustrated when we see others able to handle much higher training loads than we can and we wonder why.  In my mind though, it's no different than the reason some of us are better readers or some of us are better at math and why some of us are artists while others are accountants.

                   

                  All of us have an "pain tolerance" level as well.  I have been running for several months now with what I think is piriformis syndrome.  (I have never properly thanked Susan for pointing out that possibility.  Thank you.  I'm actually going to see a specialist at Ohio State University Sports Medicine Center on December 19).  It is really, really painful.  I grimace every time I stand up from a seated position.  Sometimes, when I first stand, I can barely walk I'm in so much pain although it subsides after walking 50 yards or so.  I have started some of my speed workouts and the pain was so bad I wanted to scream every time I picked my left foot up off the ground.  It affected my gait.  But, I also knew that if I could just suffer through a bit, the pain would subside to a dull roar.  It would still hurt like hell but I could live with it.  I have a feeling that not too many people would run through something that hurts this badly.

                  Short term goal: 17:59 5K

                  Mid term goal:  2:54:59 marathon

                  Long term goal: To say I've been a runner half my life.  (I started running at age 45).


                  Hip Redux

                     

                    .  I have a feeling that not too many people would run through something that hurts this badly.

                     

                    Mostly because of the significant potential downside in doing so.   You have a good chance of doing more damage and lengthening the amount of time you deal with being in pain by continuing to run through it.    To me - not worth the risk.  To you - maybe it's worth continuing to train through it.

                     


                    Hip Redux

                      And to answer the original question - yes, some are more injury prone.  Taking out the klutz aspect of getting injured lol, if you have an imperfect system and tax it, something will break.  So if you have muscle imbalances, orthopedic issues, etc, you will likely be injured more than someone who doesn't.

                       

                      I thought this book did a good job explaining it:  http://www.amazon.com/Anatomy-Runners-Unlocking-Potential-Prevention/dp/1620871599

                       

                      For example - I have too much mobility through my lower back and not enough mobility in my hips.  It causes an excess amount of stress to my lower back in certain motions that would not bother anyone else - but for me, I end up with low back issues.

                       

                      onemile


                        LTH- my PT didn't have an issue with the way I run he had an issue with my body. My hips are externally rotates and really far forward in the hip socket, putting extra strain on my already tight hamstrings. I have ridiculously tight hips, calves, and feet. I have flat feet, almost no ankle flexibility , and overpronate. I doubt he'd have had an issue with my running style, it was more that the way my body was structured makes running efficiently and injury free difficult.

                         

                        Yeah, I actually had a PT tell me that god didn't design me to run   And a chiro tell me that I could do marathons but I should keep my mileage low and use the Galloway plan.  She actually brought out the book.  

                         

                        But when it comes down to it, I was just trying to do too much too soon.  And once I stopped doing that I got better.  I averaged over 60mpw this last marathon cycle, so despite my body not being good for running, I can actually handle quite a bit. I just had to build up to it slower than I wanted to.

                         

                        So while I think it is true that some people are biomechanically blessed and able to do much more than others (and build up much more quickly), I wouldn't take this PT too seriously.  I think for some of us, it just takes more patience.

                        jamezilla


                        flashlight and sidewalk

                           

                          Yeah, I actually had a PT tell me that god didn't design me to run   And a chiro tell me that I could do marathons but I should keep my mileage low and use the Galloway plan.  She actually brought out the book.  

                           

                           

                          I don't think I could have remained calm in either of these situations

                           

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                          GinnyinPA


                            There's also the issue of how your attitude affects your likelihood of injury.

                             

                            One reason so many newbies get hurt is they have more enthusiasm than experience, and will often push their bodies beyond their abilities.  If you push too hard too soon, you'll be more likely to get hurt, but it is hard to really understand that until it happens to you.  As LTH said, most people will only put up with so much pain.  Others will keep going no matter what, and deal with the consequences later.   If you race when you're injured, or when you haven't really trained properly, you run a much greater risk of doing real damage.  .  If you have a mental image of how fit you used to be, and try to perform at that level before your body is ready for it, you're more likely to get injured.  If you try too hard to follow a plan, regardless of how your body is responding to it, you could get injured.  If you try to keep up with people who are faster or fitter than you are, you can get hurt.  As an older runner, I have a real conflict between what my body is saying I can do and what my mind says I should be able to do.  Finding the balance between challenging yourself to improve and pushing yourself to the point of injury isn't easy.

                            kristin10185


                            Skirt Runner

                              I think that one of my problems is something people here CONSTANTLY saying and I have tried to abide by but unfortunately don't always succeed in abiding by.....which is that my long run is often out of proportion to my total weekly mileage.

                               

                              I work 55 hour work weeks, and have to run in the morning before work, and do not have a flexible start time to get into work. I have a really hard time getting myself up and out the door in the morning to run (but there is literally no other option to getting weekly runs in, I get home too late and come home exhausted and starving, I have no desire to do anything than microwave a quick dinner, watch a little TV while I eat it and enjoy a glass of wine or bottle of beer, catch up on personal emails, pay a few bills, ect, and then get ready for bed and get to sleep within an hour and a half of getting home), so often I don't get to run as far during the week as I hope to. Sometimes I have to skip weekly runs if I have too much to do that doesn't allow me enough sleep to get up early and run the next morning, ect. I don't want it to happen but it does. But weekends I have plenty of time, so never skip or shorten my long run even if it ends up being 50%, or more of my weekly mileage. I need to get better at not skipping or shortening my runs during the week. Could that be part of my injury prone-ness?

                              PRs:   5K- 28:16 (5/5/13)      10K- 1:00:13 (10/27/13)    4M- 41:43 (9/7/13)   15K- 1:34:25  (8/17/13)    10M- 1:56:30 (4/6/14)     HM- 2:20:16 (4/13/14)     Full- 5:55:33 (11/1/15)

                               

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                              Love the Half


                                Kristin, none of us run for a living.  Some are better able to fit it into their lives than others.  Here's a reality.  You will never earn a living by your running.  Me neither.  Given that reality, you have to run as you can without making it the number one priority in your life.  In reality, maybe that means you can only run 35-40 miles per week.  Well, so what?  Maybe that means you need to limit yourself to half marathons.  Well, so what?  None of us have to prove anything to anyone else.  Here's another reality.

                                 

                                If someone goes from sedentary to active, the curve of health benefits climbs very steeply up to about 25 miles per week but it flattens out significantly after that.  There is no evidence that you get any additional health benefit from running more than 50 miles per week and there is some evidence that the curve starts declining for those running more than 50 miles per week.  It's not a steep decline and the evidence isn't strong enough to be conclusive but the evidence is there.  My point is that, from a health perspective, there's no real reason to run more than about 25 miles per week.  If living a healthy lifestyle is your primary objective in running, then you can do just fine on that reduced mileage.

                                 

                                If that's not acceptable to you, then you just have to make compromises somewhere.  Maybe you have to skip that glass of beer in the evening because you are out getting in a few extra miles on your 2nd run of the day.  Maybe personal emails just have to wait until the weekend.  Maybe you aren't willing to make those kinds of sacrifices in your personal life just to satisfy your running life.

                                 

                                I don't have an answer for you.  What I do encourage you to do is to make a conscious decision.  Life is all about making choices and every choice we make has both positive and negative consequences.  I think too many people make themselves unnecessarily miserable because they try to avoid the negative consequences of their choices.  Well, you can't.  That's part of life.  I'll give you my example.

                                 

                                About five years ago, I had to decide whether I wanted to put in the time and effort it would take for me to have a chance at getting promoted to Colonel in the Army Reserve.  A promotion would allow me to extend my career for another three years and would increase my retirement by a decent amount.  On the other hand, taking the kinds of jobs that get you promoted and enrolling in Army War College would have essentially meant me spending 2-4 hours every single day performing military related tasks as well as being gone on military duty 3-4 weekends a month rather than 1 weekend a month.  In the end, I decided it wasn't worth it.  Between the lost three years of pay and retirement difference, I probably cost myself and my family about $50,000 - $100,000.  I don't know about you but in my world, that's not walking around cash.  However, I also have two young children and I wanted to be able to spend time with them every evening rather than having to devote nearly every evening to military duty.

                                 

                                Which decision I reached is almost irrelevant.  The point is that I considered all factors in that decision and made it with full understanding of the negative consequences of that decision.  But, and this is the important thing, I decided that the positive consequences of that decision outweighed the negative so I'm OK with it and I can live with those negative consequences.  Just make whatever decision is right for you.

                                Short term goal: 17:59 5K

                                Mid term goal:  2:54:59 marathon

                                Long term goal: To say I've been a runner half my life.  (I started running at age 45).

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