And frankly, some of the runners I know eat like total crap!  LOL

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Flarunner-Thanks for your very thought out post. I agree with many of the things you said. I'm done with the debate. I expressed an opinion of how I felt and what I've seen.

Oski-I also agree with your post to a degree. I was never saying I was better than anyone because I didn't diet and because I run. I just found it odd for her to binge before a diet.

This is the part of your original post that stuck with me.  Last January (2012), my bff and I started a weight loss program together.  We made the decision to start on Monday.  She spent the whole weekend indulging in food that she knew we were giving up on Monday.  It didn't make sense to me, even then.  Of course she only lasted about 6 weeks and has gained everything back.  I managed to stick it out and lose 110lbs and will keep it off.  It's totally like Nevr said.  It's about changing your lifestyle and it's easy to see who will succeed and who won't by the attitude going in.

Not saying I'm better than anyone else, just that I have worked hard at learning to eat well without fad diets and I am hopeful that I can help others in my life do the same.

Sounds like 3/4 of the people I know, who oddly enough, work in the medical industry. Sure, they work with eyes but they still had to go to nursing school and do regular rotations at clinics in order to keep their license current. My mom happens to be one of them.

Every 6 mos or so, there is some "magic fix" diet that comes along(currently, it is soda pop being the scourge of all life existence....I do believ there was even a thread ON RA lately about soda pop evils) that all the office girls follow that will cure all their weight issues without needing to fix anything else about their lifestyle.

Ugh. I want them to succeed but thinking one thing is the root of all evil is just stupid. You have to exercise. You have to eat right and in moderation. If I have to hear one more time about where my mom has went lately that "you really get your money's worth of food" I will scream! Does it taste good? I never hear about that, only getting mass quantities of food for $5.

Yeah, I see how that's working for you.....

 

I don't mean to disparage,I really don't. I was there. I lived it. I know. I just want so damn hard for her to succeed and NOT DIE EARLY but she just won't listen to reason. And god, it sucks to watch it, year after year.

You've hit on the thing that bothers me most about people and weight issues.  I realized a long time ago that my biggest weight issue wasn't what I was eating, it was how much.  I had not idea what a serving size was.  When I figured it out, I also found out that if I threw in a glass of water I was full.

That's when taking customers to lunch or dinner started to become an eye opening experience.  I'd look at the amount of food they bring to the table, and think..."OH CRAP...WHAT DO I DO?".  It took me a long time to figure out that nobody else cares if you leave food on the plate, as long as you tip the waitress.  My eating those fries won't put food in the mouths of starving kids in China, contrary to my mother's theory.

Subway drives me nuts.  I hear people in line talking about weight loss, and they always order the foot long because it's $5.  Unless you're saving half of that for tomorrow, or for dinner, your condiments and chips bring that foot long meal to anywhere between 800 and a 1,000 calories.  That 6" sub by itself loaded with veggies would fill you up for under 400 calories if you just gave it a shot.

As for the OP, I don't know which is worse, the diet itself, or the self destruction just before the diet.  12 donuts today, won't make your 3 weeks of protein heavy meat sweats any more bearable.  If all people want is temporary weight loss at a price, I can teach them how to really do it. I was a wrestler for half of my life.  Hell, I can take 10 pounds off of you TODAY.  You'll put it back on at a drinking fountain, but I can do it.  If you want to be fit, and be fit for the rest of your life, then there aren't any short cuts.  It's worth it though.  I dropped down to the weight I am now back in 2010, and put almost every pound back on later.  That's when I realized that it was worth it to continue to eat right, and exercise.  Try going from 315, to 225, and back to 300 pounds.  It's quite the learning experience.  No amount of food, beer or leisure could make me feel as good as I did at 225 for every moment of the day.  I said to myself, "I have to get back there, and stay there".  That's what I'm doing right now.

I know every weight fluctuation that takes place in my body, and I can tell you exactly what caused it.  That doesn't mean that I have to track it every day, but I'm aware of those days when I've gone off the rails and I know it can't happen that often.  It won't.  I'm as proud of maintaining my weight within a 5 pound range throughout the holidays, as I am of losing all of the other pounds.

If others want to pack on 4 pounds in 24 hours, and shed 10 over 21 days just see what it would be like to be 6 pounds lighter before ballooning back up, I can't stop them.  When they're done playing around though, I can show them that its possible to do it the right way and have a better life.

 

Thank you for the self-correction. I didn't want to say anything, but people who write the word "advise", instead of  "advice", bother me more than fat people. Fortunately, you're not one of them.

 

Aside from that, I have zero knowledge of what it takes to lose weight. But I do know that people who manage to take any weight off are simply extraordinary. It must be incredibly difficult to starve yourself a little everyday to create the necessary deficit for weight loss.

You're welcome. I screw up plenty of posts when I do them via phone as I can't always see the whole paragraph context at once before I hit post. On a desk top any mistakes I made become more clear as they did for this.

Can I have a 2nd Snickers bar.

Can I have a 2nd Snickers bar.

I ate it already. Sorry.