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Question for Hansons people (Read 42 times)

happylily


     

    Don't get too hung up on what they call them. I wish Hansons would just call those runs "MP runs" and be done with it.

     

    By the way I am a big fan of those workouts when training for a marathon.

     

    Yes, nothing wrong with calling them what they are: MP runs. I also love those.

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      Don't get too hung up on what they call them. I wish Hansons would just call those runs "MP runs" and be done with it.

       

      By the way I am a big fan of those workouts when training for a marathon.

       

      This is what I have learned from you & a number of the other experienced/fast people here; one of the reasons I decided to go with Hanson vs some of the other plans.

       

      While we are on the subject - the fairly minimal taper concerns me a bit. Has that worked out OK for people?

      Dave


      Bad Ass

         

        This is what I have learned from you & a number of the other experienced/fast people here; one of the reasons I decided to go with Hanson vs some of the other plans.

         

        While we are on the subject - the fairly minimal taper concerns me a bit. Has that worked out OK for people?

         

        Didn't you do Pfitz last time?  I find the taper with Pfitz 18/70 as concerning.  But trust the plan.

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        onemile


           

          This is what I have learned from you & a number of the other experienced/fast people here; one of the reasons I decided to go with Hanson vs some of the other plans.

           

          While we are on the subject - the fairly minimal taper concerns me a bit. Has that worked out OK for people?

           

          The first Hansons Advanced cycle the 10 day taper worried me but it ended up working out well. I magically felt awesome on race day and it felt so much easier.  The second cycle I chose a more aggressive MP and added miles and arrived at taper feeling very worn down and it just wasn't enough to make me feel good on race day. I think I could have used a longer taper.  So I think you have to see how you feel and take extra time if you think you need it.

             

            Didn't you do Pfitz last time?  I find the taper with Pfitz 18/70 as concerning.  But trust the plan.

             

            I have never done a formal plan. But I based my last taper loosely on Pfitz; to me it seems much more generous than Hansons.

            Dave


            "Journey" hater

               

              This is what I have learned from you & a number of the other experienced/fast people here; one of the reasons I decided to go with Hanson vs some of the other plans.

               

              While we are on the subject - the fairly minimal taper concerns me a bit. Has that worked out OK for people?

               

              I can only speak for myself but I like a two week taper. I've raced 11 marathons now and I know that three weeks is too long for me.

               

              I will also say that the taper is probably one of the things that is really dependent on the person. Three weeks seems to be the general rule of thumb but I know a number of runners that utilize 10-14 day tapers. However, they do tend to be more intermediate to advanced runners.

                I would work backwards from race day, and pick up the plan from that point on. Just adjust for mileage if necessary. You just came off some faster races, so I assume you put in some speed work so that will take care of that somewhat.

                  Take a look at how the beginner plan ramps up the quality work.  They start with a base of easy miles, then I think they cut the speed workouts in half (compared to the advanced) but maintain the strength workouts.  The tempo runs also start later, but ramp up a little faster so that you end up in the same place.  I believe that they also shorten the warmup and cooldown on the quality days so that you're not putting as much time on your feet it.

                   

                  I would look at the beginner's plan since you would be right up to where the speedwork starts and/or mileage starts to build, so you still have time.  You can always add more miles to the easy runs and warmup/cooldown to make it closer to the Advanced plan if you decide on the beginner's.

                   

                  OK after going back & looking at the Beginner plan, this makes a lot of sense. It doesn't start any quality work till week 6, but then after that the 2 plans start to merge & ultimately become pretty similar. With the exception of reduced mileage on the easy days, which if I am feeling good I will be beefing up anyway.

                  Dave

                  FSocks


                  Gramps

                     

                    I can only speak for myself but I like a two week taper. I've raced 11 marathons now and I know that three weeks is too long for me.

                     

                    I will also say that the taper is probably one of the things that is really dependent on the person. Three weeks seems to be the general rule of thumb but I know a number of runners that utilize 10-14 day tapers. However, they do tend to be more intermediate to advanced runners.

                     

                    +1

                     

                    Two weeks is the perfect marathon taper in my book.

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