happylily- Who are you kidding, from reading your posts you're at least as hard-headed as me - you would have ran it and probably finished first in AG. WOW, I appreciate the kind words but I'm not sure I'm quite yet to the sub 43 10k. This training cycle has really given me a boost to my speed, but I'm hoping by my fall marathons I'm at your guesstimate pace for the 10k.

LRB- Nope, those aren't mountains. I remember somebody (I think from Colorado) posting the elevation profile from  their training route and those were real mountains on their hill repeats.

Docket_Rocket- Thanks but I think you just had quite the hill workout in LA, didn't you? I've been thoroughly amazed at how much stronger I feel through this training cycle and also nervously look forward to how that April FM turns out (hopefully the weather will cooperate)

onemile- Yep, it's Wisconsin. The 15k got to add one more loop so you would have definitely hated it by the end of the day.

Baboon- A agree, turnarounds bite! However, I read something once (maybe by Hall?) about giving 2-3 strong strides after a turn (or turnaround) to quickly get back on pace. I actually tried that on this course and it seems to have worked except at the 3 mile point - looking at my pace spike this was the one turn I remember that had congestion and I had to pull up to not kill myself or a couple of women ahead of me.

She Can- I've actually only ran one other 10k race (47:52) but that was last November - 3 weeks after my 2nd marathon in 7 weeks. My legs were almost recovered at that point and my pace was within 15 seconds to what McMillan says I should have hit (based on my FM time of 3:43).

Nevrgivup- Thanks for the kind words and I do look forward to eliminating this race from my PR memory ... and my actual memory as well.