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outoftheblue


    Damaris -- Very scary about your Dad.  I'm glad he's OK.

    Life is good.

    EbonyN


    MusicofEbony

      So I went out for a 40 minute tempo run at an overall pace of 7:25, and after a ten minute warmup, I put it in gear.

       

      For whatever reason, I found an immediate groove at a pace of 7:11, and after about 15 minutes, decided to just run with it (pardon the pun).

       

      Surprisingly, the pace was not all that hard physically, but the mental demons came out at about the 25 minute mark and were flying all around my head.  I was able to run through that and even though it became a physical struggle towards the end, I hung in there.

       

      I programmed this workout online and sent it to the watch, and while running mistakenly hit the lap button one too many times, costing me fives minutes at "T" pace, crap.

       

      As it is, I ran a 7:08 for 35 minutes-4.91 miles (including the last five minutes at 6:56), which was on pace to set a 10k PR.

       

      I hate that I missed those five minutes at "T" pace, but will definitely take the 7:08 as a tradeoff.  I surprised myself with that one, so today was a good day!

      @LRB Great tempo run. I apologize for not responding to your question last week about my Achilles Tendonitis. I saw your post, and I was going to respond, but I just got busy. When my Achilles was at its worst I felt the strain in my calf. My doctor said the reason my Achilles got inflamed was due to the tightness of my calves which put stress on my Achilles. Also, I'm stretching a lot, in addition to doing exercises to make my Achilles stronger such as calf and heel raises. I have to admit that before my injury I did not stretch at all, before I read an article in the New York Times that said stretching did prevent injury, and it was a waste of time. Now I realized that I need to stretch, and take any health advice from the New York Times with a grain of salt.I'm still going the walk run thing untlll my left Achilles tendon is strong enough to do a full run. What I noticed during the recovery process that my Achilles tendon is much weaker than it was before I injured it. It also gets mildly inflamed. Having to go so slowly is annoying, but hopefully I do the recover soon.

      Formally known on the Runners World forums as Malletgirl02.

      LRB


        Well, I'm back from my race and I totally got my butt kicked.   It was almost all on gravel paths, I missed a turn on the course, and I later learned (from my Mom who was chatting up a race official)  that the course was at least .1 over-length.   I think the thing that really did me in was hitting the first mile marker, looking down and seeing an elapsed time of 10 minutes,  In retrospect, I think this was part of the course being over-long (my Garmin was giving me a 9:24 pace and showing 1:07 miles), but I panicked ("Yikes!  I'm 35 seconds off pace!) and sped up trying to make up the difference.   By mile 10, I was back on target pace.  However, between the gravel and speeding up, my legs were beat and so was I.  Very shortly thereafter, it became pretty clear I didn't have it in me to sustain that pace and a PR wasn't going to happen.    To add insult to injury I missed the final turn to the finish line and lost some more time in that.    Finally, I just never seemed to find my mojo out there.  It was a struggle all day.  I think running on gravel took a bigger toll than I expected.  Unofficial time  was 2:07:07, far short of my hope of breaking 2:04.  At mile 12, I at least hoped to break 2:06, but the mile 12 was another long one (1:08), uphill and then I missed the final turn.

         

        I was pretty down on myself at mile 10, as I had such good hopes going into this race.   However, I realize now that this course was not the best choice for a PR effort.  My PR was on a paved, certified course and that what I need to pick next time for a more fair comparison.  I should have rolled with the punches more, and modified my plans on the course before fatigue made that decision for me.    Lessons learned.

         

        The good news is that my 70 year old Mom did great .  She ran the 10K -- well really 6.3 miles --  in about 1:12 time.   Her goal was to run the entire way and she did that.  I'm really proud of her.

        Your self analysis was great!  Sorry for the tough race but I am very impressed with your critique and perspective.  You have it all figured out, now you just have to find the right event.  Having said that you were not that far off your goal time!

         

        Ebony, I went through a similar period where I thought pre and post run stretching was useless.  Now I stretch two, three sometimes four times a day.  Albeit lightly, and for brief periods.  Good luck on your recovery!

         

        Thanks X!  Win lose or draw my quality workouts are intoxicating!  It's all i think about anymore...except when I am running them, ha!  I am only doing two a week now, but once I am up to six days a week running, I will be doing three of them bad boys and loving, hating, loving, hating, loving every one of them!

        Docket_Rocket


          Thanks, guys!  My dad is OK but freaked out.  All is good.

           

          outoftheblue, being 0.10 mile longer is typical for HMs.  Great job on what sounds like a tough course!

           

          Be back later!

          Damaris

           

          As part of the 2024 London Marathon, I am fundraising for VICTA, a charity that helps blind and visually impaired children. My mentor while in law school, Jim K (a blind attorney), has been a huge inspiration and an example of courage and perseverance. Please consider donating.

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            LRB - nice tempo run!

            outoftheblue - congrats to you and your mom. Nice job!

             

            10.4 easy for me today.

             

             

             

            LRB


              LRB - nice tempo run!

              outoftheblue - congrats to you and your mom. Nice job!

               

              10.4 easy for me today.

               

              Thanks!  What are you up to these days, any events soon?

              Pinktastic


                Happy Saturday!!  Holy cow!!  Y'all have really ROCKED some mileage today!!  Way to go!!

                 

                I was able to get in 13.27 at 10:23 average pace.  My hip/ piriformis / whatever bothered me all night so I wasn't sure that I could get the 13 done, but it was fine during the run until about mile 10.  At that point, I was miles from home and it wasn't too bad so I dug deep and finished it.  I've stretched and rolled, and it's much better now.

                 

                Have a Pinktacular Saturday night!!  And, may your next run give you a sense of exhilaration that lasts for days!!

                 

                Good luck to tomorrow's racers!!

                 

                - Sarah

                But The Smile That I Sent Out Returned With You.

                outoftheblue


                  Thanks, guys!  My dad is OK but freaked out.  All is good.

                   

                  outoftheblue, being 0.10 mile longer is typical for HMs.  Great job on what sounds like a tough course!

                   

                  Be back later!

                   

                  Yikes,  I didn't realize that.   I guess the RDs would rather risk being a little long than going short and hearing complaints about illegitimate PRs.   I'm thinking that's why my PR is from one of the few certified courses I've run.   I won't freak out so much next time.

                  Life is good.

                  Docket_Rocket


                    If it's certified, it would be.  All my HMs have been 13.20 or more.  Marathons 26.40-26.50.  Being certified means they are more than 13.1, so they have to be long.

                     

                     

                    Yikes,  I didn't realize that.   I guess the RDs would rather risk being a little long than going short and hearing complaints about illegitimate PRs.   I'm thinking that's why my PR is from one of the few certified courses I've run.   I won't freak out so much next time.

                    Damaris

                     

                    As part of the 2024 London Marathon, I am fundraising for VICTA, a charity that helps blind and visually impaired children. My mentor while in law school, Jim K (a blind attorney), has been a huge inspiration and an example of courage and perseverance. Please consider donating.

                    Fundraising Page


                    YAYpril - B-Plus

                      My PR HM is from a course that measured 13.2 on my Garmin. I suck at running tangents though, and as far as I know certified courses are always measured so that 13.1 is when you'd run all the tangents perfectly.

                      StepbyStep-SH


                        OOTB - Good job dissecting the race and coming through with a positive attitude. As you and others have said, you really weren't that far from goal given the circumstances. And a big congrats to your mom!

                        20,000 miles behind me, the world still to see.

                          Hi nightlies:

                           

                          Baboon - since you said "porkchops", I now have a mental image of you doing donuts in a snowy parking lot, yelling WHEEE WHEEE WHEEEE! like Maxwell the Pig.

                           

                          Heidi - good luck with the MP tomorrow

                           

                          Robert - congrats on hitting double digits, that's a big milestone.

                           

                          Bruce - yowza that's a lot of coffee

                           

                          Step - very nice job in bad conditions

                           

                          Luke - good luck at the HM, don't sweat it.  To quote SRL, "It's just running"

                           

                          D - Glad your father is ok.  That is common in P.R.?  Yikes.

                           

                          April - good plan

                           

                          D^2 - still a decent distance

                           

                          SIAR - interesting, seems like people with a good sense of pace and a garmin could pretty much run whatever time they picked.

                           

                          robinde - congrats on the 12

                           

                          Rabbit - good job

                           

                          Rick - very nice pace

                           

                          Tom - don't freeze

                           

                          Scotty - holy cow, what a spread of food there!  I'd run that race just to eat afterwards.

                           

                          Ric-G - do you live near the place in your avatar?  It looks beautiful.

                           

                          Weezer - hola, nice distance.

                           

                          pae - good luck with the LR tomorrow

                           

                          OOTB - congrats to you and your mom.  You're right, gravel is not a good place to PR.

                           

                          Ebony - hope the recovery is going well

                           

                          Sarah - nice job on the tough finish

                           

                          11.6 with 30 min. tempo, 7:30 overall.

                          outoftheblue


                            My PR HM is from a course that measured 13.2 on my Garmin. I suck at running tangents though, and as far as I know certified courses are always measured so that 13.1 is when you'd run all the tangents perfectly.

                             

                            That's my understanding too.  My Garmin always reads longer because it isn't perfect and there's the tangents issue that you point out.   I'll  never call a course long because of what my Garmin reads.   Here, someone putting on the race actually confided that the course was really 13.2  as designed.  BTW, my Garmin ended up 13.37.

                            Life is good.

                            Docket_Rocket


                              Certified course must be AT LEAST 13.1 so they are all a little bit more.  Even with the tangents.  Btu yes, one tends to run 13.2, 13.3, mostly because of tangents but it cannot be 13.1 and be certified, but maybe 13.14 or thereabouts, or at least that's what I read.

                               

                               

                              That's my understanding too.  My Garmin always reads longer because it isn't perfect and there's the tangents issue that you point out.   I'll  never call a course long because of what my Garmin reads.   Here, someone putting on the race actually confided that the course was really 13.2  as designed.  BTW, my Garmin ended up 13.37.

                              Damaris

                               

                              As part of the 2024 London Marathon, I am fundraising for VICTA, a charity that helps blind and visually impaired children. My mentor while in law school, Jim K (a blind attorney), has been a huge inspiration and an example of courage and perseverance. Please consider donating.

                              Fundraising Page

                              DanFuller


                              5K Specialist

                                Run aborted after about 100 yards tonight. Pain in my quad. My quad hasn't felt great since the HM. Sad

                                Personal Bests:

                                800M - 2:38 (5/28/13) | 1 Mile -5:54 (5/28/13) | 3K - 11:55 (12/29/12) | 2M - 13:00 (12/1/12) | 5K - 20:00 (4/12/13) | 13.1M - 1:37:24 (2/3/13)