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Feel better after 2nd HM than First, Common? (Read 84 times)

    This past Saturday I ran my 2nd HM.    After my first HM this past October, my legs ached and felt bad several days afterward.

    This time even though  I ran slower (one minute 40 secs) due to not enough LRs because of illness and holidays during training, I felt much better after the race and the 2 plus hour drive home and the following days. This time I hydrated at every water stop and ingested a couple shot blocks every 4 miles. Also the next day, I did a slow recovery run for 3  miles.

    So should I attribute the recovery from HM the second time around due to race experience, proper hydrating & fueling during race, the next day slow recovery run, or just plain good luck?

    I'm curious from those who have run more than one HM.

    “Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go.” - T.S. Eliot


    Bad Ass

      I find that common.  The more you run and teh more training you do, the faster you'll recover.  I felt super sore after my first marathon, but not after my second, third, etc.  It gets better the more you do it.

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      "The most powerful weapon on earth is the human soul on fire."

        Yes, because arguably you are better trained the second time around, and you have some idea what to expect.

          Yes, because arguably you are better trained the second time around, and you have some idea what to expect.

          i hurt more after my MH in October than I did after my full marathon earlier this month. Pace wise I was faster for the full. My half was did have a lot more inclines and declines than my full did though.

           

          I think that DR hit the nail on the head with her statment that more miles means less recovery time.

          ”Failing to prepare is preparing to fail.”

          “Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.”

           

          Tomas

          music_girl117


            Hey, are we twins?  I did my first HM in October too, and my second on Jan. 13.  I also didn't train as well for my second one as my first, although I did actually run the second one 8 minutes faster (downhill course and strong tailwind helped....).  And, I also felt considerably better after this recent HM than my first one.  I was super-sore after the first one for about 3 days, and a little sore a few more days after that.  This time, I was just moderately sore for about 2-3 days.  So I guess I don't really have anything helpful to say other than, you're not alone!

            PRs:

            5k - 23:35  (May 2014)

            10k - 50:58  (Oct. 2013)

            HM - 1:56:25  (Apr. 2013)

            Tar Heel Mom


            Unleavened Dead

              yes, that would make sense, you are totally in better condition.

              "Won't you try just a little bit harder, couldn't you try just a little bit more?"

                Thanks everyone for your input.  I have one more HM schedule this year in mid-March.

                “Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go.” - T.S. Eliot


                Muddling through

                  It probably is common, but it hasn't been my usual experience. How I feel after a race is more closely related to how well I've trained and how well I've executed my race plan. Since I rarely race at any distance that I'm not well-prepared for, most of the time feeling bad after a race is an indication of either very poor execution or an exceptionally hard effort.

                  2014 Goals: Run first trail ultra, first 100K, and see what I can do in a 24-Hour race


                  Shakedown Street

                    I felt better after my 2nd than my 1st. 2nd was faster. They were about 11 days apart.

                     

                    2 reasons.

                    1) No flight after 2nd one.

                    2) Friend ran with me = more fun.

                    Started-5/12, RWOL refugee,5k-24:23 (1/12/13),10K-55:37(9/15/12),HM-1:52:59(3/24/13)


                    Antipodean

                      It probably is common, but it hasn't been my usual experience. How I feel after a race is more closely related to how well I've trained and how well I've executed my race plan. Since I rarely race at any distance that I'm not well-prepared for, most of the time feeling bad after a race is an indication of either very poor execution or an exceptionally hard effort.

                       

                      Really? I ran a 10k on Sunday and haven't been the slightest bit sore. I'm used to a bit of a tightness after a race, at least in my legs. I also ran over a minute slower than my PR and felt disappointed that maybe I just didn't push myself hard enough.

                      Julie

                       

                      PRs:  1 mile  6:57  //  5k   24:12  //  5 mile  39:32*  //  10k   49.10*   //  Half  1:52:18

                       

                      * courses slightly short

                       

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                      ~ Sir Edmund Hillary


                      Brains aint me forte

                        This past Saturday I ran my 2nd HM.    After my first HM this past October, my legs ached and felt bad several days afterward.

                        This time even though  I ran slower (one minute 40 secs) due to not enough LRs because of illness and holidays during training, I felt much better after the race and the 2 plus hour drive home and the following days. This time I hydrated at every water stop and ingested a couple shot blocks every 4 miles. Also the next day, I did a slow recovery run for 3  miles.

                        So should I attribute the recovery from HM the second time around due to race experience, proper hydrating & fueling during race, the next day slow recovery run, or just plain good luck?

                        I'm curious from those who have run more than one HM.

                         

                        I would think the primary factor for feeling better after the 2nd one is better training but you didn't mention that.  Was there a big difference in your training from the first to the second?

                         "Address the process rather than the outcome.
                        Then, the outcome becomes more likely." - Robert Fripp

                          ImNotScott - reviewing my manual training logs from my first race compared to my second race, I did  notice that I was more consistent running 5 days/week for my 2nd HM.  In addition, occassionally I would add a longer mid week run when time permitted.

                          “Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go.” - T.S. Eliot