Kimmie: I'm really looking forward to this. Interesting place and it's not very often that one can be take part in an initial running. I booked the flight because it jumped $70.00 from last week to last weekend. I hope to get word soon that the spot is still open and that I'm in. They have 11 now and want 2 more. I will be the old goat in the group for sure. Bugs: It was bulging disks and a ruptured disk last time. This is not as bad. I just need to keep those muscles stretched and not do anything that would cause them to contract to much. Hopefully it will be gone in a few days. Erika: Maybe we could exchange stretches and start a treatment thread? You post to youtube first. MTA: 3 hours waiting so that DS2 could see the Doc in the Box at the "Convenient Clinic". Z pack sould be easier to get.

well I got close to 2 hours of shoveling in. I sure hope dh appreciates it! One of these days i'm going to do a relay. They sound like so much fun!

well I got close to 2 hours of shoveling in. I sure hope dh appreciates it!

Hmmm, Pam if he's anything like mine, he'll wonder why you left "that little spot over there?" I hope he's not. It's infuriating.

Hmmm, Pam if he's anything like mine, he'll wonder why you left "that little spot over there?" I hope he's not. It's infuriating.

Oh he probably will knowing him *sigh* if he does I'll get him back some how

Pace - hope your back gets better quickly!! The relay sounds fun! Cash - ohh you were away I wondered where you'd been! Hope you had fun!! Bugs - I could never be disappointed in you! I'm a big weenie... still... I thought I was over that... but while i ran on the treadmill I got a cramp and started seeing spots and my vision was blurry... about 1 mile in... so i stopped... i donno why I stopped - I felt fine... i'm just the world's biggest weenie... if you could all reach through the monitor and slap me that would be AWESOME... THANKS IN ADVANCE!

Shan, stopping on a treadmill, after cramping and seeing spots is not being a weenie. Its being smart. Have you ever seen the Jetsons cartoon, where he goes flying off the back of the treadmill at full speed? New house with good running nearby sounds great !

cash - very insightful!

Gumhead ! ( favorite quote by 4 year old nephew, when he thinks what you are saying is dumb).

Mammoth is in Central California. Current snow depth on the mountain = 180 inches or 15 FEET of snow. Average snowfall for Mammoth 353 inches per year. 150 ski runs 27 lifts. Town 8,000 feet elevation. Top of Mountain over 11 thousand feet. Deana Kastor lives and trains here. 3 hours north of Mammoth is Lake Tahoe. Squaw Valley, home of the 1960 Winter Olympics. Yeah all that stuff like skiing and bobsledding in California. And Squaw even has an outdoor ice skating rink mid mountain. You can get there via gondola from the parking lot. And after you ski and ice skate, you can drive 2 hours and lay on a beach with the Pacific Ocean, in your swim suit, in the same day. Hope your back feels better Pace, Nice abs in the avatar Pam. Bugs, towels should work fine for the van. But keep the windows rolled down if you can. If you keep the windows rolled up, the sweat stink can stay in your van for a couple of weeks. And if you run the air condtioner, the stink can get in the air filters and stay quite a while.