Did that and then some. Though I did manage 9 miles somehow. Now sure how that happened, but it felt good. Almost too good. Maybe I should have run harder yesterday.

I didn't run today (93F in the mid afternoon). But I felt really good for the day after a marathon. Not sure whether the heat played a factor or not in how I felt afterwards. I can say though that even though my HR was down, I just didn't feel like I could run any harder during the race and it probably meant I didn't get as beat up.

good for you on running with your wife, Perry... what a good husband/ Ran 3 easy miles around the lake today- I love this lake of mine... beautiful sunset and my legs feel fine. I wonder if that means I didn't run hard enough at the relay. Excited for the Pig and Frederick... I will miss being at the Frederick Marathon. I just can't race every weekend, but if I could, I would...

...Wow, the 5K and marathon, in the same weekend? ...

Well, shhh, but <secret>the mara goal isn't time at all, but distance -- want to see how far I can run after it, if I take it slow both during and after</secret>. The whole parenting and running combo sounds almost as tough as the working & schooling combo - I realize there are people with enough diligence to do that, and I admire them, but I am glad it's not lazy old me trying to juggle all that stuff. PS: Thanks Dave for a fun week summary.

Perry,When is your goal marathon? Are you going to try and keep the entire distance easy? I ask because I am running two marathons five weeks apart, with first as training and there is much discussion on how to run the first one. I am not suppose to taper for it, but my body needed a little extra rest last week.

The whole parenting and running combo sounds almost as tough as the working & schooling combo -

I admire those working and going to school too. I would do it, if it would pay more but it wouldn't. And I like school..but there again do I spend the money on myself or pay for the kiddos to go to college. So, Perrry you don't have kids? Kim, Smart to ease back into it. I broke my recover run rules two weeks ago and paid for it all last week. The guidelines are no recovery run over an hour. Somedays you need to stop at 20 minutes, maybe 40, but anything over an hour is getting into a hard workout, regardless of pace. However i am allowed doubles. So my 1:20 run the day after my 3hr run...bad bugs..very bad. I felt like a teenager explaining myself to parent, "it seemed okay at the time."n Shan, Glad you're running again. Did it hurt a ton in the marathon? What are you running this weekend? My achilles feels so wonderful right now I don't even think I would need to go to doc, but can't cancel after begging to get in. Wish my kitchen utensil treatment could cure metatarsals and cranky knees.

Hey Bugs- no, I'm not running the Pig Marathon- I'm excited for Murphy who is running it... It's on my to do list... sounds fun. And I wish I were going to be at Frederick this weekend. It was so tempting, but I just can't squeeze it in- same as you, bugs, I have to balance kids and husband, etc... the relay makes me feel like I got some good racing in, and I want to race again at the end May-- big goal 10K race. Your training has been amazing... did I tell you that Nobby emailed me with info about a running seminar I'm planning? I can see that he's a wealth of wisdom and I can't wait to see how all of that is going to play out with your marathon. Perry- I think that you've run Frederick before, so you may know this already, but just make sure you get there SUPER early- there is no easy way to get into the stadium once traffic starts backing up. People always arrive late and frazzled at that race. And it starts early already.... I'm guessing you guys are not driving up the morning of... if you have time to meet up Saturday or sunday, let me know.

Bugs: My only goal mara this year so far was LPRM, which went well (7min PR). I did National 2 weeks later on lark and had a lot of fun, and intend on doing 3 more, but none for goal times. This coming week Frederick (goal = distance), in the fall Baltimore (accompany wife on her first mara), and then around Thanksgiving Rehoboth (accompany both wife & sister who are relaying it). Kim: Wife can't make it, and I'm going up Sat -- have to do pickup on Sat, plus I signed up for their 5K that evening But I don't think you live in Frederick.... MTA: Woke up by birds this morning, went running at about 0645 -- very nice, very cool, very pretty....

MTA: Woke up by birds this morning, went running at about 0645 -- very nice, very cool, very pretty....

Ha! Ha! Ha! I have meadowlarks nesting outside my house. They start screaming for hookups about 3:00am every morning. Tough to sleep with the windows up. So far, putting the cat out for the night has not helped. Nice 6-miler this morning. Question for the group on downhill running: While at the relays my first run was 1.5 mile climb followed by 3.5 mile steep downhill. I was all focused on pushoff after foot landing and pleased with my way below 7 minute mile pace when I got passed and ran away from by a runner who looked to be in a similar situation to me age wise. I had to ask after the leg what he was doing. He told me he focused on lifting up the heel after foot landing as quick as possible. Result was faster foot turnover, straight form, less wear on the quads. Said you don't get ahead of your self and start putting on the brakes. I played with it this morning since I'm not as sore and it seems to work. What do you think about it and is this what you all have been doing all along?

Bugs - it didn't hurt at all in the marathon. My legs were tight from not running which was problematic. Monday morning it hurt but I think that was mostly from sitting in the same position for 13 hours driving home without cruise control. By mid-morning it didn't hurt anymore. This morning it was tight but not sore. it's still a little swollen but not bad. Really I don't even notice it much but am still elevating and icing. Pace - for down hills I was told to focus on shorter strides with fast turnover.