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I know most here are into beer but as some know, besides beer I grow my own vines and make wine.
One of the challenges with wine is that unlike beer, you only get one shot a year. So the learning curve takes awhile to get through. Years ago I got the basics down well by making non-grape fruit wines year-round, but now I focus on grape wine and am trying to perfect the varieties I have growing.
My 2011 Marachel Foch was kind of sharp (too much acid). It has mellowed a bit with age but I learned a) I need to do malolactic fermentations on this, and b) I need more oak to round it out. Though I think the 3-year drought we've had here has made it challenging on getting balanced grapes.
Today I did the first real taste on the 2012 Marachel Foch (well, 1/3 of it was Oberlin Noir, which is a close cousin). The malolactic fermentation cut the sharpness somewhat, but not as much as I'd hoped. I added more oak than last year, so I am hopeful that with some age this will be a pleasant wine.
For weeks of watering the vines to keep them and the crop alive through a 50-year drought and all the hours trimming etc, I will get ~16-17 bottles of this wine. Ugh.
I also made a black raspberry port. To do this legally, fortifying with Everclear was necessary. I'm adding the oak incrementally so I don't go overboard as it took 3 years' worth of berries to make 5.5 gallons; the first iteration was light on oak so I added some more and am not awaiting the results in another couple months. It certainly has some promise.
I have not messed with the Cayuga White yet; I will get roughly 12 gallons of this. I plan on about 5 gallons (25 bottles) done semi-sweet the way my wife likes it, and leave the rest dry. The dry is an easy wine; it was excellent last year and is as good or better this year. This will be my first try back-sweetening however. I'll get around to that in another couple weeks.
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I know most here are into beer
Heh yeah. I drink wine on rare occasions (like when there is no beer available). I should mix it up more maybe.
Anyway I'd be interested in learning about your wine making processes. Post some pictures too.
MTA: My brother in law makes wine, but he gets kits and doesn't grow his own grapes. Come to think of it my LHBS sells wine kits and such. I forget when the season is but they get lots of different grape varieties in. I think that I recall them getting other fruit in as well.
Semi-retired.
This past fall I was overwhelmed with 2X the grape crop I was expecting, so I was in oh-crap mode as I worked very late into the night trying to get the grapes processed into must. So I didn't take pics like I did the year before. Hopefully this year.
Wine and beer making are very different. A batch of wine required repeated interventions for many months, and may not be bottled for a year. I just added oak to the red wine that started in August. I need to back-sweeten the white whenever I find 2-3 hours to work with.
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Just curious, but how do you oak the wine? I assume you don't have barrels. Are you using oak chips or something like that?
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Oak chips. There are also cubes and "swirls". Barrels are problematic and very expensive.
It's a surface area game; in the end only really sophisticated people could perhaps tell the difference. A lot of commercial wine is not barreled.
Oak chips. There are also cubes and "swirls". Barrels are problematic and very expensive. It's a surface area game; in the end only really sophisticated people could perhaps tell the difference. A lot of commercial wine is not barreled.
Same with beer. This is on my beer list, something I would like to do but not a high priority. What I would do is soak oak chips in bourbon and rack the beer onto it for an extended period of time. Probably a stout. If I do it I will probably split a batch so I can eventually do a side by side taste test to see what it does to the beer.
That's a neat idea.
Remember it's all about surface area. A real oak barrel does not have a lot of surface area for the volume of wood and liquid. A chip is little volume and a lot of surface area. As a result, it only takes 2-4 weeks to get anything out of it that you are going to get. You don't need to let it sit for months.
Yeah but once I rack to secondary there is no harm in letting it sit longer. Bulk aging is not a bad thing, I am just lazy and rarely secondary.
Now I am intrigued. I had planned on brewing a Belgian Tripel over the summer. I will split that batch and throw some oak chips in half.
Now back to spaniel's wine making escapades.
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