Low HR Training

"Expose Your Slow Twitchers" Daily Maffetone and/or Low-HR Training Reports (Read 20600 times)

jimmyb


     Can't imaginge what they must think when they see us runners.

     

     

    Freaking bipeds.Want to pet us? Just try, you hornless clods.


    Happy

      I found myself in the same situation as last week in regard to needing an extra day off before the long run. This in spite of receiving advice from Istvan on progressively running harder during the week culminating in the long run being the harder of the 3 weekly runs. I was mindful of this idea while running the two first runs of the week, yet, I found my feet and calves too sore and stiff to run the long run on the planned day. It is my right foot and leg in particular - some old trouble spots still needing attention and healing. I gave my body an extra day off and ran the long run today instead.


      I don't know if this kind of adaptation is what Brad Hudson had in mind. Probably not, but what can I do? I need to stay healthy above and beyond all else. Otherwise there will be no traininig let alone any kind of race.


      The long run went well today. I did 4x3.5mile trail loops. The last mile and  a wee bit was at moderate progression effort. This meant that I pushed the pace a little on the last mile+, which is slightly uphill. Thus completing a 14 mile long run. This is the longest I have run in a very long time.


      I think I did a good job keeping things under control today. Started conservatively and kept my Average HR right below or around my MAF for the first 2 loops. After that it started to slide a little but I still stayed well in my aerobic zones. I need to try and figure out what percentage of HRR I run at in my long runs. My MAXHR on todays run - during the moderate progression was 162; otherwise I experienced a HR spike that went to 187, which I quickly walked off.


      Resting HR = 40, HRmax = 220+, HRR = 220-40 = 180


      Nutritional strategy went well today: I used Cliff Shot-Bloks and Salt Sticks capsules for energy and electrolyte replacement. I drank water. Carried a Nathan handheld waterbottle during the entire run. Stopped 2 miles into every loop and walked while drinking and taking the stuff. It worked well. 

      I hope these items are going to help me recover faster.



      Using the Karvonen method: I stayed well below 70% intensity even while pushing at the end. I was mostly in the 55%-65% range today. Started with AVHR below 130, then progressively moving into the 130s and 140s on average per mile as the run progressed. You can see my HR data in the RA training log, if interested.


      Conversions: 

      maximum heart rate (HRmax)  =  220   beats per minute  =  220   beats per minute
      resting heart rate (HRrest)  =  40   beats per minute  =  40   beats per minute


      Solution:
      target heart rate at 50% intensity =  130  beats per minute  
      target heart rate at 55% intensity = 139  beats per minute  
      target heart rate at 60% intensity = 148  beats per minute  
      target heart rate at 65% intensity = 157  beats per minute  
      target heart rate at 70% intensity = 166  beats per minute  
      target heart rate at 75% intensity = 175  beats per minute  
      target heart rate at 80% intensity = 184  beats per minute  
      target heart rate at 85% intensity =  193  beats per minute  
      target heart rate at 90% intensity = 202  beats per minute  
      target heart rate at 95% intensity =  211  beats per minute  
      target heart rate at 100% intensity =  220  beats per minute  

      5K, 4/28/07 24:16 PR
      10K, 5/5/07 49:23 PR
      1/2 M, 12/08/07 1:49:34 PR
      Marathon, 12/09/06 3:57:37 BQ
      50K, 10/04/2009 7:27:00 PB
      40M, 4/17/2010 11:20:00 PB

        Flower,

         

        Do you gave a target race? Adjusting your schedule to fit, the needs of your body, was smart running!  Over training is usually  my down fall.

        Run until the trail runs out.

        2012**Run 40 miles week

        50 miler**100 miler

         PR 5K**10K**26.2

        http://bkclay.blogspot.com/


        Happy

          What is going on? I can't get past page 192 on this thread. Can't read any post past page 192 (including my own from earlier today) - please, respond in a new thread if you have a clue what's wrong. Thanks.
          5K, 4/28/07 24:16 PR
          10K, 5/5/07 49:23 PR
          1/2 M, 12/08/07 1:49:34 PR
          Marathon, 12/09/06 3:57:37 BQ
          50K, 10/04/2009 7:27:00 PB
          40M, 4/17/2010 11:20:00 PB

            I'm reading Hudson now. Interesting stuff about adaptive training. Look forward to seeing your results. I think I'm back in the easy (<150) all but one day per week routine. I'll do one day of interval or tempo work. On my long runs I will stay less than 150 but will ramp up. So lets say 5 miles at 130 or less and then 5 - 8 miles at 145 - 150, with the rest back in the MAF -10 range as a cool down. This way I can stay less than Van Aaken but still get some increased pace. Certainly not Maffetone training but still in the lower stress range. Thoughts?


            "He conquers who endures" - Persius
            "Every workout should have a purpose. Every purpose should link back to achieving a training objective." - Spaniel

              MAFF TEST  NICE COOL BREEZE . RAN IN  COLLEGE  PARKING LOT. A LITTLE SORE AFTER RUN. 8 MILES IN

               

              1:51:52   1.5 WU& CD    WILL TEST AGAIN AFTER SORENESS IS GONE.

              Heart Rate: Rest: 51 / Average: 121 / Max: 131
              Weather: 68° F
              Notes: DP 65 H92 GOOD BREEZE
              Statistics: Calories: 950
              VO2 Max: 21.0

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              Intervals (GPS Interval)
              Type Distance Time Total Time Pace Avg HR Max HR Notes
              Interval 0.5 Mi 7:39.08 7:39.08 15:19 110 122  
              Interval 0.5 Mi 7:08.31 14:47.39 14:17 116 123  
              Interval 0.5 Mi 7:15.95 22:03.34 14:32 119 125  
              Interval 1 Mi 12:04.16 34:07.50 12:05 127 131  
              Interval 1 Mi 12:36.75 46:44.25 12:37 126 129  
              Interval 1 Mi 12:32.22 59:16.47 12:33 127 131  
              Interval 1 Mi 12:53.72 1:12:10.19 12:54 126 130  
              Interval 1 Mi 13:52.66 1:26:02.85 13:53 126 130  
              Interval 1 Mi 16:07.9 1:42:10.75 16:08 121 130  
              Interval 0.5 Mi 9:09.51 1:51:20.26 18:20 104 111  
              Interval <center>—</center> 0:32.34 1:51:52.60 <center>—</center> 100 103

              Run until the trail runs out.

              2012**Run 40 miles week

              50 miler**100 miler

               PR 5K**10K**26.2

              http://bkclay.blogspot.com/

              lowgear1


              Max McMaffelow Esq.

                A moderate acclimation challenge presents,
                67 F   90 H   63 DP

                2.50 Run segment averages 13:19 m/m - 122 bpm
                3.00 w/u + c/d
                5.50 combined

                Possum Run

                Watched A replay of the Hy-Vee Triathlon
                June 28, 2009
                West Des Moines, Ia
                My man Simon Whitfield (CAN) fights his way up to lead group, toys with the lead, drops significantly off the pace as though tiring, then sneaks back little-by-little to re-join, now he SPRINTS TO THE FINISH AND CLAIMS VICTORY!!! Brilliant, brilliant. ....BRAVO!
                lg
                ♪ ♫ Hey, hey, we're Maf Monkees And people say we monkey around. ♪ ♫ (The Monkees)
                Give me 12:59 in '09, please. I deserve it! (Maf of course)..No more teens! No more teens! (ME! ME! ME!)
                ♪ ♫ I Thank The Lord For The Night Time...And I Thank The Lord For You ♪ ♫ (Neil Diamond)
                jimmyb


                  Stone Mountain

                  74º 85%  dp70º overcast

                   

                  1:00:00

                  4.14 miles @ 14:30 ave pace

                   

                  Downhill running

                  Downhills  1.65 miles 17:32  pace 10:38
                  5:40  (10:18)  128
                  5:55  (10:45)   128
                  5:57  (10:49)  128

                   

                   I've made some progress in my downhill running (run at MAF of 128). Covered more ground today in total, including uphills. Still walking almost the whole uphill to keep my HR at MAF-10, but the walking is a bit faster.

                   

                  Busy day today. Have a good one!

                   

                  --Jimmy

                  lowgear1


                  Max McMaffelow Esq.

                    If it's Tuesday, it must be Omaha
                    68 F   90 H   64 DP
                    4.04 Walk   59:57   14:50 m/m   101 bpm

                    A couple of advanced runners, separated by ~1 mile, approach, and pass along residential sidewalks.

                     

                    Where's Rudolf??!

                     

                    lg

                    ♪ ♫ Hey, hey, we're Maf Monkees And people say we monkey around. ♪ ♫ (The Monkees)
                    Give me 12:59 in '09, please. I deserve it! (Maf of course)..No more teens! No more teens! (ME! ME! ME!)
                    ♪ ♫ I Thank The Lord For The Night Time...And I Thank The Lord For You ♪ ♫ (Neil Diamond)

                      10k in today's Indy bake, otherwise known as downtown concrete. Only 85 but high humidity and yes I know its hotter and more humid in other places. I just felt like whinning about my weather.

                       

                      6.2 miles at 55:10 with and AHR of 140 (which is -3 BPM from my easy run target). MHR was 146 but that was trying to beat a traffic signal - which I did .

                       

                      Happy running to all.


                      "He conquers who endures" - Persius
                      "Every workout should have a purpose. Every purpose should link back to achieving a training objective." - Spaniel
                        2 miles 29:58 ahr 114 mhr 125   71F 92 H   DP65

                        Run until the trail runs out.

                        2012**Run 40 miles week

                        50 miler**100 miler

                         PR 5K**10K**26.2

                        http://bkclay.blogspot.com/

                          8.31 miles. Down hill  5x .5 mile repeats. Pleasantly tired. 71F Dp 68 H 93% .Target  Maff 126

                           

                          Type Distance Time Total Time Pace Avg HR Max HR Notes
                          Interval 0.25 Mi 3:57.02 3:57.02 15:49 107 115  
                          Interval 0.75 Mi 11:21.01 15:18.03 15:09 115 120  
                          Interval 0.5 Mi 6:09.46 21:27.49 12:19 115 119  
                          Interval 0.5 Mi 5:28.75 26:56.24 10:58 124 138  
                          Interval 0.5 Mi 7:45.45 34:41.69 15:31 115 123  
                          Interval 0.5 Mi 5:11.79 39:53.48 10:24 125 129  
                          Interval 0.5 Mi 7:59.56 47:53.04 16:00 119 126  
                          Interval 0.5 Mi 5:03.23 52:56.27 10:07 126 130  
                          Interval 0.5 Mi 8:20.71 1:01:16.98 16:42 116 122  
                          Interval 0.5 Mi 5:12.35 1:06:29.33 10:25 123 131  
                          Interval 0.5 Mi 8:14.57 1:14:43.90 16:30 115 125  
                          Interval 0.5 Mi 5:17.43 1:20:01.33 10:35 124 127  
                          Interval 0.5 Mi 8:15.77 1:28:17.10 16:32 119 127  
                          Interval 1 Mi 13:32.14 1:41:49.24 13:33 118 131  
                          Interval 0.5 Mi 7:35.32 1:49:24.56 15:11 115 122  
                          Interval <center>—</center> 0:10.48 1:49:35.04 <center>—</center> 98 101  

                          Run until the trail runs out.

                          2012**Run 40 miles week

                          50 miler**100 miler

                           PR 5K**10K**26.2

                          http://bkclay.blogspot.com/

                          lowgear1


                          Max McMaffelow Esq.

                            Satellite imagery suggests that the thunderstorms have passed....Wrong!
                            I'm drenched in a chilly deluge.
                            64 F   93 H   61 DP   Blustery, 13 mph

                            3.25 mile run, sandwiched between a 1.50 mile warm-up and a 0.50 mile cool-down

                             

                            Puddle Jumper

                             

                            lg

                             

                             

                            ♪ ♫ Hey, hey, we're Maf Monkees And people say we monkey around. ♪ ♫ (The Monkees)
                            Give me 12:59 in '09, please. I deserve it! (Maf of course)..No more teens! No more teens! (ME! ME! ME!)
                            ♪ ♫ I Thank The Lord For The Night Time...And I Thank The Lord For You ♪ ♫ (Neil Diamond)
                            jimmyb


                              LG,

                              What's with the 64º? Can I come live with you?

                               

                              I took a rest day yesterday. The stress has been a bit high this week--crunch week. We close on our new house tomorrow! We'll be moved in by Monday. Bunch of things to take care of today. I think it'll just be a brief run at the track with my sweetie. Once we have taken care of driving  licenses, registrations and all that poo, we should be back to regular living by August. Regular living=sleeping, working, running, paying the bills, and having fun on the weekends.

                              A nice structure. I like structure. It frees my mind to be unstructured.

                               

                              Keep going everyone!

                               

                              --Jimmy

                                Recovery run. Downhill repeats took more out of me than I imaged. Needed to press the run today. Walked last .25 mile.Rest day tomorrow.

                                Date: 7/9/2009 4:53 AM
                                Type: Easy
                                Distance: 2 miles
                                Duration: 32:35.65
                                Pace: 16:18 / mile
                                Heart Rate: Rest: 57 / Average: 106 / Max: 119
                                Statistics: VO2 Max: 15.6

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                                Intervals (GPS Interval)
                                Type Distance Time Total Time Pace Avg HR Max HR Notes
                                Interval 1 Mi 16:48.29 16:48.29 16:49 110 119  
                                Interval 1 Mi 15:47.36 32:35.65 15:48 102 115  

                                Run until the trail runs out.

                                2012**Run 40 miles week

                                50 miler**100 miler

                                 PR 5K**10K**26.2

                                http://bkclay.blogspot.com/