congrats,looking good.
Thanks Clay,
I see you just completed an 8 miler too! It looks like you ran it well below your MAF HR. I pretty much ran it at my MAF HR of 132.
I just have to laugh, when I see us older folks playing around at the low end of the heart beat spectrum. We just don't have as many heart beats to play with anymore. Every heart beat is precious, and we have to be more careful how we use them. I think that is why you see more older folks here on LHR training.
I really wish I had found out about this training philosophy when I was younger, I think I would have embraced running more, and I would have had a lot more heart beats to play with. I did run some, in my mid 20s, but I had the wrong mindset, and thought I needed to run everything hard. Eventually, that is just not so much fun anymore.
Max McMaffelow Esq.
48,
MTA, Just read your latest post. I can totally relate to us older runners and heart rate.! You're still a youngster though, in terms of "masters" bracket running. Your best running is ahead of you. Hope mine is as well..so far so good!!
lg
Happy
You are making big strides with your running - congratulations on having found a way that works for you!
Clay,
Looks like you are doing very well; taking good care of yourself with recovery/rest when it is needed. One of the best ways to ensure consistency and continued progess with your running. Good job - you inspire others with your daily reports of how you run. Thanks!!
LG,
I am putting my money on Jimmy's better half too - on the other hand, I don't want to race Jimmy when he does wake up!! LOL!! Aerobic Beast he is!! But the Beast is asleep.....
Been dealing with a cold or something similar the past week--only ran twice last week (both relatively short).
Biked to work this morning, so didn't run. Hope to be back out running (short) tomorrow and building back up from there.
I'm signed up for a 5k in a month--may just run it as a fun run rather than for the best time. We'll see as the race approaches. Set my 5k PR in it last year, though.
I've tried to keep up with everyone but have had little time to post.
We're moved in. Lots of unpacking and time on feet the past two days. Didn't run yesterday. I made an attempt about a half hour ago, but my legs were so tired that I stopped after a minute. This is the bookend of when I was preparing to move. Very little running will go a long way. No channels yet, but Netflix arrived, and II will be DVD-ing tonight!
The treadmill is sitting pretty in the guest bedroom. I remarked to my sweetie how nice is it not having any stairs. We lived in a 3-floor townhouse prior to this.
Keep going!
--Jimmy
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2.3 miles
25:05
avg HR 123
max HR 139 (MAF +1)
temp/dewpoint: 71/65
RHR50 checked before getting up. Getting out the door a challenge. No real reason. Walk 200 meters to street ran the first mile and walked back to the house. Had no problem waking up but the body would not get going. It is amazing how an 8 mile run,2 hours, can zap so much energy
Looking at everyone's progress is keeping me on the go.
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I know, the long runs zap me too. I think you did the right thing when you decided to turn around and run home - sometimes it's not worth pushing it. When the tired feeling goes away you will be fresh again and still healthy. Try to enjoy giving your body what it needs - rest.
Hi all,
This is my first intrusion to this thread. I've posted an intro at the top level if interested.
Today was a 16 mile run to work. It usually doesn't take me more than 2.5 hours for the commute, but I went over 3 hours today. And I can't blame it all on the Low HR training either. It was the first time I've gone over 12 miles in my Vibram FiveFingers and also the first time wearing a Camelbak HAWG, fully loaded with a change of clothes, flip flops, misc. stuff and 3 liters of water. I was severely weighted down. In the past, I typically have a change of clothes at work already, but I wanted to try out the new Camelbak. Suffice it to say, my feet and shoulders are pretty sore today and I'm glad I arranged to have the wife pick me up on her way home after work.
My MAF is 144, but I only averaged 132 this morning. My feet were just to tired to keep up towards the end. I stuck close to the 144 during the first half though. Food was my other concern. I headed out on an empty stomach hoping to go the whole distance without food (never gone that far without carb energy before). I got about 2/3s of the way and was just too hungry to avoid eating. I pulled out a peanut butter packet which hit the spot. And there was minimal carbs in the packet and mostly just fat. Recovery food was an apple and orange and just had a big salad for lunch.
I'm looking forward to following everyone's posts and learning more about Low HR training.
Thanks,
Jon
Good work all. Glad to see you're moved into your new home Jimmy. Now the stress should really start to drop as should those times. LG making me lol as always. Jon - welcome to the group. You will like it here. Very instructive and supportive. John - I've also had a bout of something. Kept me off the roads three days last week. Horrible coughing. Its getting better and hope your will too.
MAF test today. Didn't really trust last numbers. Thought they were a bit fast. Todays results:
4 miles at 32:49 or 8:12 pace.
I guess the improvement is real enough. I think those three days off really helped too. Its easier to run on low stress legs. Onward and upward.
Mostly easy running with one speed day per week. Although I will add some MP paces into my long runs starting on Sat.
Cheers all.
Sounds like you like to challenge yourself with your running - must have been hard to carry the load while running. I have been thinking of getting a hydration pack, backpack style, does yours have water and a straw to drink from while running?
I've never actually gotten hungry while running - must be due to habit of never eating during a long-run. Recently, I have started to use some Clif Shotblok energy chews on my long runs in addition to water and electrolyte caps; this is not because I get hungry during the run but more because I want to practise what I am going to do when I run my next marathon to find something that works well and be used to it before race day.
I think you can "teach" your body not to eat during a long run - if you want to. Perhaps you want to keep eating during long runs in which case there is no need to stop doing it.
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Clay, are you using a recovery drink after your long-runs? Some marathon runners do very well with recovery drinks and feel it helps them recover faster and be less sore after the long-runs. There are recovery drinks that are made for runners with the supposedly right ratio of carbs to proteins etc.
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Carmel, will you share some of your Maf-test success with me?!
I like my Vibrams as well. Most miles so far is 8 and my feet were tired too. I run exclusively in flats so I thought the transition would be easier but alas not so. Eventually I hope to race a HM in the Vibrams.
Flower - can't share my times as that would be a slighting your good work. As for the how. I'm not fully certain other than my base is now about 50 mils per week of mostly easy running with one speed day. I will add some tempo/mp runs for long runs from now on, but the lack of stress is the only thing I can attribute to helping increase my aerobic function. Dr. Phil really knows his stuff and now that I understand the MAF test better, I think I can start to really understand my training and how it makes me faster/stronger. I think eventually this will work perfectly into the Hudson adaptive system. The MAF test is the key to the kindgom IMO.
Beginner all over again
FrancesRe, WTG! Keep at it. Most of us go through this phase, but before you know it, you'll be 100% running. It is so worth it!
Thank you!
I'm preparing for an upcoming race, which is a long time away, but I'll need every week to get there, and it still might be close. :-)
I am doing LHR as much as possible, but I do see HR > MAF.
I'm not sure how critical exact MAF is now when I can't even run far enough for a MAF test yet and am still logging single-digit weekly miles totals.
But I am running as "easy" as possible without actually walking (other than my walk breaks).
I am trusting in time my HR will get lower at the same pace, which has been happening throughout the 4-months-this-weekend since I took my First Jog Step.
It will be a grand day for me when I can actually be fit enough to do a MAF test.
Low Heart♥Rate Training <135I'm back!
I took six months off running, but I'm at it again
Early Beginner Level, second time around
Goal Race: 28-week training Couch-to-HM (jog-walk, hope to finish under 3:00)
I'm in Week #16 (but I took a month off in there!) Count-Down 13 weeks!
Good work all. Glad to see you're moved into your new home Jimmy. Now the stress should really start to drop as should those times. LG making me lol as always. Jon - welcome to the group. You will like it here. Very instructive and supportive. John - I've also had a bout of something. Kept me off the roads three days last week. Horrible coughing. Its getting better and hope your will too. MAF test today. Didn't really trust last numbers. Thought they were a bit fast. Todays results: Interval 1 Mi 8:56 8:56 8:56 132 135 warm up Interval 1 Mi 8:06 17:02 8:06 138 138 mile 1 Interval 1 Mi 8:10 25:12 8:10 138 138 mile 2 Interval 1 Mi 8:15 33:27 8:15 136 138 mile 3 Interval 1 Mi 8:18 41:45 8:18 137 139 mile 4 Interval 1.1 Mi 9:30 51:15 8:39 137 140 cool down 4 miles at 32:49 or 8:12 pace. I guess the improvement is real enough. I think those three days off really helped too. Its easier to run on low stress legs. Onward and upward. Mostly easy running with one speed day per week. Although I will add some MP paces into my long runs starting on Sat. Cheers all.
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