Low HR Training

Maff test (Read 2888 times)


Consistently Slow

    8/5/11

    9:36 1st mile

    6/23/11

    10:25 1st mile

     

    I was starting to be concerned about over training.

     

    1 Interval 1.5 mi 20:01.98 20:01.98 13:22 116 177  
    2 Interval 1 mi 9:36.53 29:38.51 9:37 125 131  
    3 Interval 1 mi 9:57.60 39:36.11 9:58 125 130  
    4 Interval 1 mi 10:19.64 49:55.75 10:20 125 133  
    5 Interval 1 mi 10:27.74 1:00:23.49 10:28 126 133  
    6 Interval 1 mi 10:37.85 1:11:01.34 10:38 125 130  
    7 Rest 1.78 mi 19:49 1:30:50.34 11:08 122 132  

     

    6/23/11

    1 Interval 1.5 mi 19:19.27 19:19.27 12:53 115 131  
    2 Interval 1 mi 10:25.82 29:45.09 10:26 124 128  
    3 Interval 1 mi 10:35.74 40:20.83 10:36 125 129  
    4 Interval 1 mi 10:44.71 51:05.54 10:45 125 129  
    5 Interval 1 mi 10:50.77 1:01:56.31 10:51 125 131  
    6 Interval 1 mi 11:12.63 1:13:08.94 11:13 125 135  
    7 Rest 0.56 mi 7:09.97 1:20:18.91 12:48 117 125  
    8 Interval <center>—</center> 0:07.48 1:20:26.39 <center>—</center> 95 95  

    Run until the trail runs out.

    2014***1500 miles 09/28/14

    50miler 13:26:18

    Race Less Train More

     

    Ana Trason  "Living Her Life"

    "The Marble in The Groove"

     

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    bertrand


      those are just awesome results Smile keep it up :P

      Bertrand

       

      PR: 5k  31'15'' (220 lbs)

      jimmyb


        Impressive, Ron. You've come a long way. Keep up the great work.

        --Jimmy

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          8/5/11

          9:36 1st mile

          6/23/11

          10:25 1st mile

           

          I was starting to be concerned about over training.

           

          1 Interval 1.5 mi 20:01.98 20:01.98 13:22 116 177  
          2 Interval 1 mi 9:36.53 29:38.51 9:37 125 131  
          3 Interval 1 mi 9:57.60 39:36.11 9:58 125 130  
          4 Interval 1 mi 10:19.64 49:55.75 10:20 125 133  
          5 Interval 1 mi 10:27.74 1:00:23.49 10:28 126 133  
          6 Interval 1 mi 10:37.85 1:11:01.34 10:38 125 130  
          7 Rest 1.78 mi 19:49 1:30:50.34 11:08 122 132  

           

          6/23/11

          1 Interval 1.5 mi 19:19.27 19:19.27 12:53 115 131  
          2 Interval 1 mi 10:25.82 29:45.09 10:26 124 128  
          3 Interval 1 mi 10:35.74 40:20.83 10:36 125 129  
          4 Interval 1 mi 10:44.71 51:05.54 10:45 125 129  
          5 Interval 1 mi 10:50.77 1:01:56.31 10:51 125 131  
          6 Interval 1 mi 11:12.63 1:13:08.94 11:13 125 135  
          7 Rest 0.56 mi 7:09.97 1:20:18.91 12:48 117 125  
          8 Interval   0:07.48 1:20:26.39   95 95  

           

           

          congrats. Smile

           

          see., there is one thing better than 10:30 MAF pace...and that's 9:36 in this test of yours! Cool

          Tennesotans


            Date Temp AHR Mile 1 Mile 2 Mile 3 Avg
            2/4/2011 7F 130 14:03 14:01 14:01 14:01
            2/24/2011 19F 126 13:44 13;36 13:50 13:43
            3/19/2011 25F 125 13:26 13:38 13:34 13:32
            4/11/2011 30F 122 13:06 13:04 13:10 13:06
            6/9/2011 52F 129 12:42 13:23 12:56 13:00
            6/29/2011 63F 128 12:12 12:43 13:00 12:38
            7/21/2011 72F 129 11:38 12:37 12:20 12:11
            8/16/2011 68F 130 12:43 12:39 12:26 12:36

             

            Looks like my long runs are catching up to me... regression Sad

             

            That first mile of 7/21 was my best mile ever (training or MAF test)... the second and third mile

            look like a basic plateau. Bummer.


            Consistently Slow

              Date Temp AHR Mile 1 Mile 2 Mile 3 Avg
              2/4/2011 7F 130 14:03 14:01 14:01 14:01
              2/24/2011 19F 126 13:44 13;36 13:50 13:43
              3/19/2011 25F 125 13:26 13:38 13:34 13:32
              4/11/2011 30F 122 13:06 13:04 13:10 13:06
              6/9/2011 52F 129 12:42 13:23 12:56 13:00
              6/29/2011 63F 128 12:12 12:43 13:00 12:38
              7/21/2011 72F 129 11:38 12:37 12:20 12:11
              8/16/2011 68F 130 12:43 12:39 12:26 12:36

               

              Looks like my long runs are catching up to me.... regression Sad

               

              That first mile on 7/21 was my best mile ever (training or MAF test)... the second and third mile

              look like a basic plateau.  Bummer.

               How long was the W/U? 12:43 1st mile.Times should increase not decrease each mile.

              Run until the trail runs out.

              2014***1500 miles 09/28/14

              50miler 13:26:18

              Race Less Train More

               

              Ana Trason  "Living Her Life"

              "The Marble in The Groove"

               

              unsolicited chatter

              http://bkclay.blogspot.com/

              Tennesotans


                 How long was the W/U? 12:43 1st mile.Times should increase not decrease each mile.

                 

                1.55 miles in 20:28. My heart rate for first mile (of the MAF test) was 128, then 129, and finally 130.

                  Date Temp AHR Mile 1 Mile 2 Mile 3 Avg
                  2/4/2011 7F 130 14:03 14:01 14:01 14:01
                  2/24/2011 19F 126 13:44 13;36 13:50 13:43
                  3/19/2011 25F 125 13:26 13:38 13:34 13:32
                  4/11/2011 30F 122 13:06 13:04 13:10 13:06
                  6/9/2011 52F 129 12:42 13:23 12:56 13:00
                  6/29/2011 63F 128 12:12 12:43 13:00 12:38
                  7/21/2011 72F 129 11:38 12:37 12:20 12:11
                  8/16/2011 68F 130 12:43 12:39 12:26 12:36

                   

                  Looks like my long runs are catching up to me.... regression Sad

                   

                  That first mile on 7/21 was my best mile ever (training or MAF test)... the second and third mile

                  look like a basic plateau.  Bummer.

                   

                   

                  I think BOTH temp and dewpoint  has to be considered.

                   

                  in my case, there can be low-ish dewpoint but high temp, meaning dry hot weather, and this will affect my performance more than higher dewpoint in lower temp, meaning humid but not THAT hot weather. but maybe someone else is more affected by very humid weather.

                   

                  and I did not mention the obvious part: same temp but higher DP will definitely be more load on your body, affecting performance more.

                   

                  the other thing I'd like to say is maybe you're ready for an anaerobic phase. your marathon is coming up, could be a good idea to get the legs going to get them used to faster paces, marathon pace and faster than marathon pace, but I would not recommend going past LT pace for your goals in your current fitness state except for short strides (that won't build anaerobic byproducts in short time). by fitness state I mean, pros or other aerobigods may get away with totally anaerobic, meaning past LT stuff, even when preparing for marathon. Smile

                   

                  yet another thing, I do recall that you tried a marathon pace run just recently. maybe too much training load if you don't cut back on mileage.

                   

                  or... all this could be just an anomaly day (as jimmyb would say)! Smile

                   

                  I'd say repeat test next week..

                   

                  good luck to your training Smile

                  Tennesotans


                    I think BOTH temp and dewpoint  has to be considered.

                     

                    in my case, there can be low-ish dewpoint but high temp, meaning dry hot weather, and this will affect my performance more than higher dewpoint in lower temp, meaning humid but not THAT hot weather. but maybe someone else is more affected by very humid weather.

                     

                    and I did not mention the obvious part: same temp but higher DP will definitely be more load on your body, affecting performance more.

                     

                    the other thing I'd like to say is maybe you're ready for an anaerobic phase. your marathon is coming up, could be a good idea to get the legs going to get them used to faster paces, marathon pace and faster than marathon pace, but I would not recommend going past LT pace for your goals in your current fitness state except for short strides (that won't build anaerobic byproducts in short time). by fitness state I mean, pros or other aerobigods may get away with totally anaerobic, meaning past LT stuff, even when preparing for marathon. Smile

                     

                    yet another thing, I do recall that you tried a marathon pace run just recently. maybe too much training load if you don't cut back on mileage.

                     

                    or... all this could be just an anomaly day (as jimmyb would say)! Smile

                     

                    I'd say repeat test next week..

                     

                    good luck to your training Smile

                     

                    I am hoping the results are an anomaly... just an off day.

                     

                    I've been doing some anaerobic (below LT) training... about 10% of my weekly mileage... for the last three weeks.

                    I will continue that with the race coming up.

                     

                    I will also do another test next week -- I suspect I've plateaued for the time being :: shrug ::

                     

                    Thanks for all the insights Smile

                    Tennesotans


                      Date Temp AHR Mile 1 Mile 2 Mile 3 Avg
                      2/4/2011 7F 130 14:03 14:01 14:01 14:01
                      2/24/2011 19F 126 13:44 13;36 13:50 13:43
                      3/19/2011 25F 125 13:26 13:38 13:34 13:32
                      4/11/2011 30F 122 13:06 13:04 13:10 13:06
                      6/9/2011 52F 129 12:42 13:23 12:56 13:00
                      6/29/2011 63F 128 12:12 12:43 13:00 12:38
                      7/21/2011 72F 129 11:38 12:37 12:20 12:11
                      8/16/2011 68F 130 12:43 12:39 12:26 12:36
                      8/25/2011 63F 130 11:46 12:18 12:27 12:10

                       

                      I think we can say 8/16 was an aberation.


                      Consistently Slow

                        Date Temp AHR Mile 1 Mile 2 Mile 3 Avg
                        2/4/2011 7F 130 14:03 14:01 14:01 14:01
                        2/24/2011 19F 126 13:44 13;36 13:50 13:43
                        3/19/2011 25F 125 13:26 13:38 13:34 13:32
                        4/11/2011 30F 122 13:06 13:04 13:10 13:06
                        6/9/2011 52F 129 12:42 13:23 12:56 13:00
                        6/29/2011 63F 128 12:12 12:43 13:00 12:38
                        7/21/2011 72F 129 11:38 12:37 12:20 12:11
                        8/16/2011 68F 130 12:43 12:39 12:26 12:36
                        8/25/2011 63F 130 11:46 12:18 12:27 12:10

                         

                        I think we can say 8/16 was an aberation.

                         YES

                        Run until the trail runs out.

                        2014***1500 miles 09/28/14

                        50miler 13:26:18

                        Race Less Train More

                         

                        Ana Trason  "Living Her Life"

                        "The Marble in The Groove"

                         

                        unsolicited chatter

                        http://bkclay.blogspot.com/

                        jimmyb


                          Date Temp AHR Mile 1 Mile 2 Mile 3 Avg
                          2/4/2011 7F 130 14:03 14:01 14:01 14:01
                          2/24/2011 19F 126 13:44 13;36 13:50 13:43
                          3/19/2011 25F 125 13:26 13:38 13:34 13:32
                          4/11/2011 30F 122 13:06 13:04 13:10 13:06
                          6/9/2011 52F 129 12:42 13:23 12:56 13:00
                          6/29/2011 63F 128 12:12 12:43 13:00 12:38
                          7/21/2011 72F 129 11:38 12:37 12:20 12:11
                          8/16/2011 68F 130 12:43 12:39 12:26 12:36
                          8/25/2011 63F 130 11:46 12:18 12:27 12:10

                           

                          I think we can say 8/16 was an aberation.

                           

                          So was your spelling of aberration. Cool

                          I believe in the mutation of language, so not a problem in my mind.

                          Keep going, Tenn. Doing awsum!

                          -Jimmeeeee

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                          Tennesotans


                            Gno problemb!  Smile

                            jimmyb


                              Best MAF test result since moving to Georgia 2.5 years ago.

                               

                              80°F 64% Humidity

                              45:00

                              4.15 miles

                              10:50 pace

                               

                              10:16

                              10:41

                              10:53

                              11:24

                              01:46

                               

                              One step at a time. Cool

                              --Jimmy

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                              Consistently Slow

                                8/5/11

                                  Interval 1 mi 9:36.53---- 29:38.51-- 9:37 ----125

                                131

                                 

                                9/13/11

                                1 Interval 1 mi 9:22.38 ----9:22.38--- 9:23 ----123 134

                                Run until the trail runs out.

                                2014***1500 miles 09/28/14

                                50miler 13:26:18

                                Race Less Train More

                                 

                                Ana Trason  "Living Her Life"

                                "The Marble in The Groove"

                                 

                                unsolicited chatter

                                http://bkclay.blogspot.com/