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Get the F out! (Read 1408 times)

jimmyb


    Besides my chaffed love handles, what is raw fat?
    GMoney


      I'll defer to Rudolf, but I believe that raw fat would be any vegetable fat that hasn't been oxidized (by exposure to high temperatures or otherwise). In brief, foods like raw nuts, avocados, and unheated cold pressed extra virgin olive oil = good, but roasted nuts and heated vegetable oils = bad. Don't know what it means for raw animal fats like sashimi, steak tartare, raw eggs, or cold butter. Rudolf?
      Rudolf


        raw fat is kinda terminus technicus in the comunity focusing on raw nutrition - nothing cooked and nothing processed. So must be alive so to speak. I am not sure on teh exact definition so will use my example : I am vegetarian and vegan so no animal product interest me at all, however I do not consider honey and beepolen as animal product and i use them every day (just to explain the little hicup in vegan ideology as it is out there). Raw food usualy means fruit as well and some school actualy have idea of fruit mainly with some greens and zero fat, have tried that in the past for many months. so I am at stage of eating veggies and fat and I simply said veggies because I do still cook some of them, but cooking is done on water only, no fats or oils, so it is either a soup - simple whatever vegs into water and boil - includes various seeweeds, or it is on very little water - stewing vegs, allays eat the sauce-water from it as well, so no steaming vegs for me - they are kinda undegestable. Fat to me is from seeds, nuts very little cold pressed virgin oils (wheatgerm, apricot kernels) avocados and special case is coconut. Coconut is type of fat which does not get damaged by heating at reasonable temperatures, so I will use coconut cream or coconut milk in the stewed or soup cooked vegs creation - it gives it that white sauce appearance and special tatse but is of course dairy free. Coconut oil I use very often in colder weather it looks like white solid and looks like lard kinda. When I was eating some bread till recently it would be allways spread with coconut oil-fat. There are also special seeds like CHIA, HEMP, FLAX etc, which need to be fresh and require special preparation. all of the above fat sources are never heated are raw and must be fresh, You can feel when nuts or seeds become rancid - which can happen in bad storing conditions (supermarkets) and oxidize with time, light etc. To sum it up : fat allways raw (exception is cocnut cream into soups), veggies are either raw or water cooked the expression : veggies and raw fat only, somehow implies that veggies can be cooked but never cooked in fat-oil way.
        lowgear1


        Max McMaffelow Esq.

          Too, rich lg2.. lg
          ♪ ♫ Hey, hey, we're Maf Monkees And people say we monkey around. ♪ ♫ (The Monkees)
          Give me 12:59 in '09, please. I deserve it! (Maf of course)..No more teens! No more teens! (ME! ME! ME!)
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          lowgear1


          Max McMaffelow Esq.

            Maple syrup gd on whl weat pancake,,,wait molasses Stick pipe (no smokee) in tree..but slo. vermont, n.h. big tree maple ony inteh kascades? lg
            ♪ ♫ Hey, hey, we're Maf Monkees And people say we monkey around. ♪ ♫ (The Monkees)
            Give me 12:59 in '09, please. I deserve it! (Maf of course)..No more teens! No more teens! (ME! ME! ME!)
            ♪ ♫ I Thank The Lord For The Night Time...And I Thank The Lord For You ♪ ♫ (Neil Diamond)
            jimmyb


              Rudolph, Don't take this wrong, but do you soak your nuts? I have a friend who is adamant that nuts and seeds are indigestible unless soaked overnight, then dried in an oven at 150 degrees. I have found no definitive science to back up her claims. --Jimmy
              GMoney


                Mittleman writes about soaking raw almonds overnight but I don't recall him mentioning a higher temperature drying process. I've read that unsoaked raw nuts can contain enzyme inhibitors and anti-nutrients that can make digestion tough if the nuts are eaten in excess. Like you I've not seen science to back it up, not have I heard of it except in a few isolated cases (soaking pumpkin and squash seeds in salt water before drying).
                Rudolf


                  soaking my nuts ? lets stay on food topic Big grin some of them, particularly raw almonds. however with almonds it is also cleaning process, so I keep changing the water which gets very muddy-brown. In my view almonds with the brown skin on it are breading grounds for yeasties, bacterias etc and so it is proper washing of it. I use to poore boiling water over them which killed all the nasties and within about 10 minutes allowed for the almonds to be clean and for the skin easily taken away. sometimes I soaked almonds longer to the point that look like ready to start germinate - growing little tree. there are some nut I do not soak - like raw cashews and peanuts. CHIA seeds needs to be soaked for at least 10 minutes to create gel like substance. some seeds like flax needs to be freshly grinded and than soaked with whatever the meal is goin to be in. I am not concern with enzymes inhibitors, this old theory was dismissed many times. however I know lots of people who would soak any type of seeds, and than dry them at temperatures bellow 36 celsius to keep it raw, than dried they would grind it and make into some gourment stuff like raw crackers etc, which was never my way of preparing and eating, takes too much time and You have to start preparing tomorow lunch yesterday morning.
                  GMoney


                    172.2 lbs. 34.75" waist. 16.5" neck. 15.5% fat per the Navy algorithm. Apart from the scale the measurements are pretty rough and ready, so I'm not putting a lot of creedence in the specific numbers just noting that the weight and waist size are decreasing and I'm looking and feeling more trim. If I'm not making progress in my MAF test then at least I'm making progress in the "fat off"


                    Happy

                      GMoney, you are doing great and we are proud of you - keep the fat melting away Smile Rudolf, I think technically cashews and peanuts are not considered nuts but rather legumes. I eat all my nuts raw and lots of them. Walnuts are good because of the high content of Omega-3s. Almonds are mild and always taste good, they are also easy to carry in a plastic bag in my purse so I have something to munch on any time I feel hungry during the day. I eat them with the brown skin on them and I don't get sick from the germs on the skin - I must have developed a good immune system. Smile Beware of nuts that have been stored for too long - they can be rancid, like Rudolf mentioned, but they can also be dry and tasteless; I don't have anything to back this up but I assume they contain less nutrients the longer they have been stored. After all, they are not protected by their natural hard shell anymore thus being exposed to oxygen and light. I think eggs are a great source of fat and protein - they come in a complete package with nutrients that compliment each other. I also eat other animal fat - not raw!!! Big grin
                      5K, 4/28/07 24:16 PR
                      10K, 5/5/07 49:23 PR
                      1/2 M, 12/08/07 1:49:34 PR
                      Marathon, 12/09/06 3:57:37 BQ
                      50K, 10/04/2009 7:27:00 PB
                      40M, 4/17/2010 11:20:00 PB
                      lowgear1


                      Max McMaffelow Esq.

                        Sometimes ya feel like Snickering, Sometimes ya don't. lg
                        ♪ ♫ Hey, hey, we're Maf Monkees And people say we monkey around. ♪ ♫ (The Monkees)
                        Give me 12:59 in '09, please. I deserve it! (Maf of course)..No more teens! No more teens! (ME! ME! ME!)
                        ♪ ♫ I Thank The Lord For The Night Time...And I Thank The Lord For You ♪ ♫ (Neil Diamond)
                        GMoney


                          171.2. lbs., 34" waist, 16.5" neck. 14% fat per the Navy algorithm. Nearly 9 pounds lost since November, including a couple of set backs (holidays) and a long-ish plateau. Waist has dropped 3 inches. I am feeling and looking more trim.


                          Happy

                            Amazing SmileSmile You are an inspiration.
                            5K, 4/28/07 24:16 PR
                            10K, 5/5/07 49:23 PR
                            1/2 M, 12/08/07 1:49:34 PR
                            Marathon, 12/09/06 3:57:37 BQ
                            50K, 10/04/2009 7:27:00 PB
                            40M, 4/17/2010 11:20:00 PB


                            Happy

                              GMoney, Is it primarily dietary changes that enable you to loose weight or do you think you are loosing weight because you burn more fat while running? Which dietary changes have you made?
                              5K, 4/28/07 24:16 PR
                              10K, 5/5/07 49:23 PR
                              1/2 M, 12/08/07 1:49:34 PR
                              Marathon, 12/09/06 3:57:37 BQ
                              50K, 10/04/2009 7:27:00 PB
                              40M, 4/17/2010 11:20:00 PB