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"Race Report & Upcoming Races" Thread (Read 6920 times)

jimmyb


    John,

     

    Great report and photos. Nice race.

    There's something about your naked, alluring feet...creamy...smooth...yet masculine....

    have you ever thought about foot modeling?

     

    --Jimmy

    lowgear1


    Max McMaffelow Esq.

      Nice race and report, John. Way to tough it out.
      That's what I'd call victory over de feet! (sorry about that one  )
      lg
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        5k Race Results

         

        Distance:  3.05

        Time:  21:57

        Pace:  7:12

         

        Mile Marker, Pace, AveHR, %HRmax(186)

        0.55  (6:51)  160  86%
        1.37  (7:14)  173  93%
        2.37  (7:18)  176  94%
        3.05  (7:16)  178  95%

         

        This is the first time I have broken 22 minutes for a 5k race, but the coarse was slightly short.  This was the most even paced race I have ever run.  This is the best I have ever felt running a 5k race up to this point.

         

        I just finished a base season of about 12 weeks of 25 miles per week with an 8 mile long run all below MAF.  I am trying a different strategy this race season and I think it is working.  I decided to really limit speed work.  I have still not really done any, except for some striders that are so short in duration that I have been able to keep HR below MAF.

         

        I finally have gotten it through my thick head (thanks Jimmy) that it is volume (and the long run) that is much more important than the speed work.  I now realize that the long run is much more imporantant than the tempo run if you are only doing 25 miles per week.  I read somewhere that you should not even think about speed work unless you are over 25 miles per week.

         

        If I run a 5k race every 2 or 3 weeks, I am thinking that is all I need for speed work.  I also experienced something that I was surprised at during this race.  The striders really helped.  I had no trouble with speed.  I did not struggle with it at all.  In this race, I was able to run at a higher HR than in the past, so I think this indicates that my LT is at a good point, and I think that this is more evidence to me that you can improve your LT with a long run.  I had the impression that I needed to do tempo runs for that.

          Great job, run48.  Those are some great splits.
          John
          jimmyb


            Great race, Run! You're getting healthy, strong, and fit!

            Don't always trust the Garmin on distance in a race. It can easily be .05 short.

             

            Keep going!

            --Jimmy

              WTG. Great race.

              Run until the trail runs out.

              2012**Run 40 miles week

              50 miler**100 miler

               PR 5K**10K**26.2

              http://bkclay.blogspot.com/

                Garmin time 1:25:10 for 9.82 miles. I have never known ATC courses to be short. There courses are normally USATF-certified. Predicted time 1:26:20. Clock time 1:25:08 for 10 miles. I am taking the ATC time and distance. Pace of 8:26 was the plan. First mile 7:55.Way too fast. Mile2 adjust to 8:29. Started checking heart monitor.Wanted to stay at 157-162 bmp. Water at 2.8 miles. 3 miles 8:29. Pace still felt a little fast. Decided to slow down in order not to crash and burn. Powerade  At 4.86 miles took 2 cups. Course was easy / moderate. No major hills. A couple of long inclines on a double loop. 5/10 mile race. Mile 8 was a struggle. I was passed by about 10 runners at this point. My goal now was to finish.  Shock to see mile 9 pace of 8:35. Finish line was up a long moderate hill. When I could see the clock it read 1:24. Knew  if i gave it one last gasp I would beat my goal time.Happy and surprised with the time.

                 

                Interval 1 Mi 7:55.77 7:55.77 7:56 169 182  
                Interval 1 Mi 8:29.05 16:24.82 8:30 164 171  
                Interval 1 Mi 8:26.7 24:51.52 8:27 165 172  
                Interval 1 Mi 8:36.74 33:28.26 8:37 166 171  
                Interval 1 Mi 8:53.06 42:21.32 8:54 167 172  
                Interval 1 Mi 8:56.73 51:18.05 8:57 170 176  
                Interval 1 Mi 8:53.28 1:00:11.33 8:54 172 176  
                Interval 1 Mi 9:27.89 1:09:39.22 9:28 167 173  
                Interval 1 Mi 8:35.22 1:18:14.44 8:36 173 178  
                Interval 0.82 Mi 6:56.18 1:25:10.62 8:28 179 184

                Run until the trail runs out.

                2012**Run 40 miles week

                50 miler**100 miler

                 PR 5K**10K**26.2

                http://bkclay.blogspot.com/

                jimmyb


                  Well done, Clay. I see you based the goal time with the McMillan calculator using your 10k time from 2 months ago. Looks like you are gaining some endurance. That first mile probably took a little out of you. But that is a good sign in terms of how well you are progressing. If you would have started 8:50, maybe you would have been a minute better--who knows. Do you keep track of your quarter mile splits in the first mile?

                   

                  Let's say you want to hit 8:28 in the second mile, and start with an 8:52, you can do something like this:

                   

                  .25mi... 2:20

                  .5mi.....2:15

                  .75.......2:10

                  1mi......2:07 (2:07 is 8:28 pace)

                   

                  Something like that. You try to get your mile 2 pace in the last quarter.

                  Congrats. You're doing great.

                   

                  --Jimmy

                    Clay,


                    Great race and great improvements so far. I think I mentioned this before, but the Garmins are definitely not 100% accurate. I don't think I have ever had a race where the garmin distance matches the race distance stated. 


                    Congrats again on a great race.


                    I had a terrible race today. Was planning on going sub 1:25 for a half, but it was pouring and the course was extremely hilly. I came in at 1:31:30 which is about 5 minutes slower than my PR. Have a marathon in a month and was hoping to BQ at 3:10, this kind of knocked down my confidence. Guess we will have to wait and see how that goes. 

                    jimmyb


                      1:31 isn't far off for a 3:10:59, hope should not be lost! Especially, considering you put 480 miles (you might just be in line for General Aerobigod around here) in during the heat of August, it was raining, hilly, and everyone has a bad day. What's your MAF test pace or training pace at MAF look like?

                       

                       

                      --Jimmy

                       

                        Got a little lazy with the Maff tests, and was doing lots of Triathlon training (mostly aerobic in the water since I can't swim well) so I'm guilty of not doing a maff test in a few months. My Maff training pace in August were 8:30 - 9 pace, in the heat and all the other biking and swimming I was doing. And now with the weather cooling off, I'm closer to high 7's and low 8's.
                        jimmyb


                          A 5-mile test should be a breeze for you, in terms of load during this final month. If you get one or two in before the race, it'll be some great info for determining fitness for later races.

                           

                          --Jimmy

                            Well done, Clay. I see you based the goal time with the McMillan calculator using your 10k time from 2 months ago. Looks like you are gaining some endurance. That first mile probably took a little out of you. But that is a good sign in terms of how well you are progressing. If you would have started 8:50, maybe you would have been a minute better--who knows. Do you keep track of your quarter mile splits in the first mile?

                             

                            Let's say you want to hit 8:28 in the second mile, and start with an 8:52, you can do something like this:

                             

                            .25mi... 2:20

                            .5mi.....2:15

                            .75.......2:10

                            1mi......2:07 (2:07 is 8:28 pace)

                             

                            Something like that. You try to get your mile 2 pace in the last quarter.

                            Congrats. You're doing great.

                             

                            --Jimmy

                             Good idea. Will do it for my half next month.

                             

                            bzaganjo

                             

                             

                             

                             It was raining and hilly. I agree with jimmy. Your marathon appears doable.

                            Run until the trail runs out.

                            2012**Run 40 miles week

                            50 miler**100 miler

                             PR 5K**10K**26.2

                            http://bkclay.blogspot.com/

                            wbr


                              Clay,

                               

                              Fantastic job. You gotta be pleased with that one.

                               

                              Bob

                              labhiker


                                Great race, way to go!

                                labhiker