So let it rip - If you advocate an Ornish (or Atkins) diet, speak up and say why. Likewise if you think someone else has it right

I was motivated to change my diet in an attempt to get off my cholesterol medication. My own research had led me in the direction of Joel Fuhrman's Eat to Live. Then a colleague at work turned me onto John McDougall's free program (http://www.drmcdougall.com/free.html). I started with his 12 day meal plan and it got me off of Lipitor. It is a low fat, starch based diet; No meat or fish, no dairy and no eggs. I boycott anything with High Fructose Corn Syrup in it. I also mill my own wheat flour and bake it into 100% whole wheat bread. I am not fanatic about it though. On special occasions, I will break the rules. I just "call a Mulligan" and join in the celebration. For example, I had pork BBQ at my brother's wedding reception. And I will probably have some turkey for Thanksgiving. Now, I am doing Low Heart Rate Training to change my metabolism. I want to build muscle and lose fat. So far I seem to be trending in the right direction. It is just taking a while. Currently I am 25.3% body fat ( 70/14.5/38 ). 15% body fat seems like a nice goal.

Want weight loss? Burn more calories than you consume. Am I moving too fast? lg, out

calory is a unit of energy - to heat up 1 litre of water by 1 degree celsius. It is very usefull, if You are steam engine, so You can calculate the amount of coal for the jurney.

Example: Calories, empty... The $700 billion bailout. A mere snack. Scarfed up quicker than Takeru Kobayashi going thru wieners at a hotdog eating contest. Burp. lg

yeah, me too

I always think people are serious when people talk about trains and coal. Serious topics.

My hat's off to all those contributing to this discussion. Don't you find runners to be idealistic, in the best sense of the word? If so, pat yourself on the back! The degree of knowledge is unmatched, and everything from Jenny Craig to stomach stapling seems fair game. I acknowledge that people far wiser than I, have devoted lifetimes to research in these areas. That is commendable..and you knew this was coming......but, and it's a big butt.... and I don't mean to trivialize any of the study, but if I could be Obama's "Czar of Health, Education and Welfare"..(yes, czar.. I sometimes choose my words carefully, comrade.)... Diet and exercise would be the new mantra. What a revolutionary concept! Think of the massive savings. Huge reductions in "childhood obesity", type II diabetes, heart disease, metabolic issues, yadda yadda. Sure, Big Pharma, Big Govt, Big this, Big that, would all have to be weaned, butt... we didn't get this phat overnight, don't ya know. ..and U thought C. Everett Koop was blowin' smoke... Remember when they let school kids play "dodge ball" and "red rover, red rover", and such? Seems like yesterday. I'll confess, I was a ruthless tyrant on the playground. A marble taker..not a marble sharer. Sorry. Food 4 thought, mensa man, lg

Stacy! Fitday is awesome. I used Calorieking before. It was so clunky and slow. Fitday is very user friendly and fast. Thanks again.

So glad you like it. I haven't tried calorie king.