I don't think it was god's punishment for breaching MAF.
but seriously, it is not likely that one 3-mile run hurts much. or if it does then maybe it will make your MAF pace become slower by 1 sec / mile, who cares?
Hey Anne,
Thanks again for one of your most awesome posts.
Sorry to hear you fell on your face. If I were you, I would be proud of those wounds, as they came from living a full life. As far as running above MAF before you come to the end of your base period, sometimes it's not good, but sometimes it is. It all depends on the individual. Whatever the case, 9-10:00 miles at that HR is pretty darn good. Your MAF of 118 might be a little low. Sometimes, 60+ needs adjusting 5-10 beats upward.
Several runners on this forum bike as well, and I've heard nothing but positive things as far as the effect on your aerobic system.
In final, I'd like to paraphrase Hitchhiker''s Guide To The Galaxy by Douglas Adams and say "next time you try to fly, yes, throw yourself at the ground, but remember to miss it."
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Thanks for that post. Hope you are alright and recovering. George Beinhorn (translator of "The VanAaken Method") wrote about falling on his blog recently, and your thread title reminded me of his words:
Toward the end of the run, I did a faceplant. I was running on the dirt margin of a bike path on the Stanford campus. The ground was leaf-strewn and muddy, and I stubbed a toe and went down, sliding in the mud behind a bus stop. A black woman who was sitting on the bench turned with a sympathetic expression and said, “Ooh…” But I was enjoying myself so much, I jumped up and laughed and said, “I must have been thinking egotistical thoughts!” She laughed and said, “Maybe it just happened.” I said, “No, that’s usually when it happens.” It’s true — pride, in running, often precedes a fall.
Toward the end of the run, I did a faceplant. I was running on the dirt margin of a bike path on the Stanford campus. The ground was leaf-strewn and muddy, and I stubbed a toe and went down, sliding in the mud behind a bus stop. A black woman who was sitting on the bench turned with a sympathetic expression and said, “Ooh…” But I was enjoying myself so much, I jumped up and laughed and said, “I must have been thinking egotistical thoughts!” She laughed and said, “Maybe it just happened.” I said, “No, that’s usually when it happens.”
It’s true — pride, in running, often precedes a fall.
I've done stationary cycling and running and found that the two can work well together - if you can stand the boring monotony of sitting on a stationary bike. Dr. Phil is a big proponent of cross-training. As long as you keep your aerobic and anaerobic training well balanced and have fun it doesn't really matter what you do.
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Thanks everyone for all the great responses. I awoke this morning to note that my eyes now have some interesting tinges of yellow and green overlaying the purple and black. I tried a little jog on my walk and found my nose didn't hurt at all today so I think I'll be able to get back to regular runs very soon. No rush though as I'm quite enjoying this walking phase.
cmon2, I really don't think that my MAF pace has been affected at all by my three miles over MAF
jimmyb, your paraphrase is very apt. May I use it as a caption for a photo? I am sending pictures to all my children that they may see their mother as one who has suffered for her sport.(In our family such things pass for humour).
I may try going up to MAF +5 when I'm back to daily running and see what happens. I'm not sure how high my HR would have gone had I not fallen. The Garmin readings showed a steady rise from 130 after the first mile. I'm not sure if if the HR should have stabilized or not. I do remember thinking that this faster pace wasn't very comfortable. I wasn't really short of breath but I'm used to running with no respiratory effort at all thanks to MAF.
Don't sweat the lack of a laughing bounce up. Everybody falls. There's nothing special there. It's the getting up and going again that's remarkable. Take it extra easy while you recover - your body needs to focus on repair.
This thread and the Beinhorn blog post got me thinking about "The Seven Deadly Sins" of running. Paul Kelso devotes a chapter to the "Seven Sins of Weightlifting" in Powerlifting Basics, Texas Style. Maybe we could use our own (non-denominational) reminder of the ways in which vice can impede our progress. Dr. Sheehan, Joe Henderson, or some higher luminary than me has probably already meditated on this topic, but here (with more than a little nod to Mr. Kelso) is my take on how I think we as runners can get ensnared by the classical vices. And, for the record, I know that I've succumbed to these all more than I'd care to admit (heck, this list is probably one of them). I shudder to think at all the times I've "fallen" without knowing it.
Pride - Believing that your fast PR or MAF pace alone makes you an authority on training.
Envy - Longing to keep up with other runners or reach a time goal regardless of your body's signals to the contrary.
Anger - Rebelling against your program or coach for want of progress when you've not given it an honest shot to work.
Sloth - Disengaging from your training and thinking that mindlessly following a program will produce good results.
Avarice - Attempting a greater training load that your body and life can reasonably withstand.
Gluttony - Forcing others in your life to always accommodate your training.
Lust - Assuming that your svelte runner's bod, nifty PR, or recent BQ makes you an object of desire.
For a different take - a Zen inspired look at how we might apply the Buddha's "Noble Eight-Fold Path" to our training - check out Zen and the Art of Running by Larry Shapiro, Ph.D.
Anne47: yes, I was joking about the 1 sec/mile worsening of MAF test.
GMoney: nice list. most of it so true for me too! I think the only ones that I never committed are sloth and gluttony and I'm most guilty of envy :P
Gmoney, what a thoughtful approach to running you have presented. It behooves us all to step back and look at what we are trying to accomplish and why we are doing it no matter what the goal. For myself, I agree heartily with the concept of all of your seven deadly sins although as a new runner I have yet to reach the exalted position of committing most of them - except for envy which certainly caused my recent mishap.One could consider avarice as a contributing factor as well. I am a little embarrassed to admit that I can see myself being guilty of all seven as I progress in this running adventure.
One of the nicer things about the Maffetone approach to running is the emphasis on health and remaining in touch with what your body is trying to tell you. I think that your seven deadly sins demonstrate the importance of a healthy mental/emotional aspect as well. I suppose that we all are trying to achieve a healthy balance or 'zen'. i hadn't heard of "Zen and the Art of Running' before but it sounds like it might be something I'd enjoy reading.
Cmon2 - thanks for your clarification, sorry I misunderstood.
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