Wow Lou - as I struggle with getting my HR a little lower I am amazed at your 13 avg. hr!! You will do great tomorrow I am sure!! Out at 5:15 with the Brink-meister. 4 miles which I tried my damndest to keep slow, therefore keeping my HR low and I bombed out again. I don't get it. The slower I went, you'd think my HR would go down and I sure didn't feel like I was working hard. But No .... 10:09 / 156 10:01 / 164 10:20 / 169 10:50 / 172 Oh well - tomorrow is another day and I plan on a longish run with my neighbor before the feast begins. I hope most people (Jlynne) and others don't leave after yesterday's discussion. We've already lost too many good people.

Wow Lou - as I struggle with getting my HR a little lower I am amazed at your 13 avg. hr!!

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Regular work day for me too, 'cept Mr Nonoruns should be done at 3, so I guess I'm getting some relief!!! You know, the one thing a vbulletin forum has that this one doesn't is the ignore button, where posts, from someone-who-chafes-you, don't appear. Perhaps on the daily we can just pretend we have one anyway. That way, we won't have folks keep running away from the daily. I really get inspired by everyone else's posts and contributions (running and otherwise) and don't want fewer contributors. Anyway, no run for me today. Knee started bothering me last night a little, and I think it's probably runner's knee. Ironically, probably not from the running per se (NO, never could be that! ) but from the box moving and up and down three flights of stairs to my attic as I absorb stuff from my parents' place into my home and also decorate for the holidays. So, I read the internet long enough to find a course of action that will work for me. I've dialed back my total mileage for this week. I found a sports med site which shows me how to tape my knee (oh well, no inappropriately short skirts for me this Thanksgiving dinner ). And, I have a series of exercises to help rebalance my quads to help put my patella closer to on-track. I know from comments from my health posse (MD/acupuncturist, massage therapist, podiatrist, chiropractor) that I have an odd patella seating anyway. So probably just crosed a line and it's letting me know. Good runs, rests and turkey prep to all!

Good Morning Gang... Hey Erika, I finally made it to the Y last night and pool ran for the first time. I asked the lifeguard if he knew anything about it and he did. He got me hooked up with the flotation device around my belly, and gave me some tips. Pool ran for 45 minutes and it was a good workout, even though I was skeptical. And boy, this exercise really works the hips and the hammy's....sore this morning. Before the pool running, I swam laps for an hour and that went much better than expected. I hadn't swam in over a year and a half, but I still had good form and my running endurance carried me through swimming that long. 1 hour 45 minutes total workout time which felt good, but arm and shoulders are very sore too this morning...but in a good way. Another thing yesterday. I called my chiropractor and asked if he could do anything about my AT, he said maybe but didn't promise anything. I went and he did the usual yanking and pulling around my foot and leg, and adjusted my pelvis and back. He also ran some machine thingy (forgot what it was called) that put out shock waves and heat that is suppose to promote healing. He said my foot would prolly feel a little worse after the treatment, then better the next couple of days. Well, this morning was the first time like for ever that my first steps out of bed were pain free, and I actually forgot about my AT. But regardless of anything, I am still not running till at least Jan 1st. Hey Mary, guess I have my mojo back Jlynne, PLEASE don't leave....you are loved and respected greatly around here ya know!!! Hey Twocat, thanks for everything. You have given me some great information on getting over my AT...the smart way Hope everyone has a GREAT DAY, whether running or not. Woo Hoo....Ball State Football team 12 and 0, and ranked 15 in the Country. Hey, that's a big deal here. Not too many years ago, they had the longest losing streak in the Country. TimBo

Ball State played against my daughter's college last night. I had heard they didn't stand much of a chance .. Nice workout TimBO!! So happy to read that your foot was pain free this morning too. Dg - you are having some great workouts too lately. Getting ready to run a 1/2 with me this year - or the Riverbank 25K this spring???? Maybe a picture of my doggies will bring Jlynne back this morning. They were having a greta time playing 3-way tug of war. The growling was so loud we couldn't hear the TV. B'Nellie - Huntley - Hailey

Yay Tim!! Mary - cute! I admit that, like Dg, I rarely walk after my run because I'm pressed for time in the mornings, although that last block up the hill to my house is often at a pace that's almost a crawl (or stagger). But I HAVE been making time to spend 5 minutes stretching after each run, which I'm beginning to believe might be vitally important for injury prevention.

I always try to finish my run at the beginning of our little road - that way I get about a .25 walk to the house. Not a lot but it does help I think. I confess to very rarely stretching and have very little in the way of flexibility. Something maybe I should work on huh?