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Am I stupid or just been sniffing glue with Trent too long? (Read 312 times)


The Thunder

    Heh....I just liked the title here. Anyway, I've been thinking a lot about marathons lately...which I think is one reason why I tend to run them so poorly. I know there has been lots of talk with Candice about "tweeking" out before races....well my friends, I think i'm the king of "tweeking" out on marathon race morning. Now, I don't seem to tweek out so bad before other races, just marathons. So I came to the conclusion that maybe that is because I only do about 1 marathon a year, and I put "all my eggs in one basket". So I feel like it's an all or nothing situation. That's a lot of pressure! (At least for me) So, my new thought is that maybe I should take a page from Trent (holy shit, I actually said that), Casa, and JK...and run a few other marathons. Maybe if I go into one without it being a 'goal' marathon, it will help me relax when I do come to my goal marathon. Anyway, the point of all this is to say that I'm now planning on running the Greenway Marathon, Lousiville, and the Monkey in a 2 months span. Good idea? Bad idea? What would swamp mom say?! I'd love to hear thoughts from those mentioned above...and others.

    1 Hip and 2 Hamstring reconstructions later…

    Trent


    Good Bad & The Monkey

      If you do that, the Greenway marathon will need to become your goal, with Louisville as a backup. And this: great idea! And this: stress fractures are fun Evil grin


      The Thunder

        If you do that, the Greenway marathon will need to become your goal, with Louisville as a backup. And this: great idea! And this: stress fractures are fun Evil grin
        No, Greenway will not be my goal. I'm going to try and run that easy...and if it's a crappy day I'll DNF and get in a good long run for Lousiville. Lousiville will be my goal race....but I'm not going to worry about a BQ. I'm just going to try and run it harder then Greenway. The Monkey will be whatever it is. I'm making no plans for that one, except to finish it.

        1 Hip and 2 Hamstring reconstructions later…


        The Thunder

          I felt so good after Huntsville in December 07, that I KNOW I could have ran another marathon 2 weeks later and done much better. I kick myself still today for not doing that. That's sort of what I'm hoping for with the Greenway thing. I'll most likely go out at 3:25 pace or something, and just take it easy the whole time.

          1 Hip and 2 Hamstring reconstructions later…

            I guess it just depends on your goal. If your goal is to tweak less by doing more, than run all three. If your goal is to run one well, then just do one. But you WILL tweak more if you focus on running one well...Because you won't have the, "Well, I'm just a crazy guy running 3 marathons in four weeks!" excuse.

             

             


            Why is it sideways?

              Boo. I retract my pearls of wisdom remark. Modified to be helpful: A better plan is to have a "backup" marathon--maybe Huntsville or Memphis. If the race is going crappy at 18 or 20, then jog it in and have another go. Why take a lesson from the ultimate tweaker (yes, you, Trent) on how not to tweak?


              Why is it sideways?

                No, Greenway will not be my goal. I'm going to try and run that easy...and if it's a crappy day I'll DNF and get in a good long run for Lousiville.
                So, basically, you're going to pull a Gordon. Quit tweaking and man up.
                Trent


                Good Bad & The Monkey

                  Define: tweak. It is not having 3 marathons that helps you. It is having a backup marathon that helps you. If Louisville is your goal, then any marathon before that will do nothing to relieve your stress. Having one a few weeks later as a backup allows you to drop out of the first one knowing that you can always shoot again.


                  Why is it sideways?

                    Define: tweak. It is not having 3 marathons that helps you. It is having a backup marathon that helps you. If Louisville is your goal, then any marathon before that will do nothing to relieve your stress. Having one a few weeks later as a backup allows you to drop out of the first one knowing that you can always shoot again.
                    Yeah, I should have referenced this good advice from the tweaker defined as the guy who runs one million marathons so that he doesn't have to run one. Modified to add: great thread title, by the way.


                    The Thunder

                      Boo. I retract my pearls of wisdom remark. Modified to be helpful: A better plan is to have a "backup" marathon--maybe Huntsville or Memphis. If the race is going crappy at 18 or 20, then jog it in and have another go. Why take a lesson from the ultimate tweaker (yes, you, Trent) on how not to tweak?
                      Ha, that's funny. I just said that you must not have read this when you said I was wise. I've thought about the backup plan...but I'm thinking that i'll still tweak out at both marathons if I do that, because both of them will be 'goal races'. My thought is that if I can run a marathon without it being a 'goal' race, then maybe I can teach my body/mind not to tweek out when it is. This would be the law of specificity. So it's like a practice marathon. I'm not looking to run my best marathon possible in Lousiville...just a solid one. I figure my best is a long way off, and I need to maybe 'take one for the team' and get a couple non tweeking marathons under my belt before I can do my best. I just want something in the memory bank that says, "Thunder, you can do this...you were fine at _____" That's my goal here.

                      1 Hip and 2 Hamstring reconstructions later…


                      The Thunder

                        So, basically, you're going to pull a Gordon. Quit tweaking and man up.
                        1. Gordon did it at PWP, that will beat you up. 2. Easier said then done.

                        1 Hip and 2 Hamstring reconstructions later…

                          Well, while i'm not like Casa or Trent or JK....I know that after St. Louis, I didn't even care anymore. I woke up 3 weeks later and ran CMM. I ran well at CMM because there was nothing left to tweak about. I think it's a great idea.

                           

                           


                          Why is it sideways?

                            The thing is, a non-tweaking marathon bears little resemblance to a tweaking marathon. The one doesn't prepare you for the other. It's like kissing your sister. It ain't nothing like the real thing.
                            Trent


                            Good Bad & The Monkey

                              Yeah, I should have referenced this good advice from the tweaker defined as the guy who runs one million marathons so that he doesn't have to run one.
                              Much better. BTW, this past weekend, I just didn't give a damn at all. If it were not for the sweet looking medal, there was just no reason to keep going.


                              Why is it sideways?

                                Well, while i'm not like Casa or Trent or JK....I know that after St. Louis, I didn't even care anymore. I woke up 3 weeks later and ran CMM. I ran well at CMM because there was nothing left to tweak about.
                                Yeah, but you ran hard at St. Louis. That's the point.
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