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Ultrarunners behaving badly (Read 398 times)


Imminent Catastrophe

    "Able to function despite imminent catastrophe"

     "To obtain the air that angels breathe you must come to Tahoe"--Mark Twain

    "The most common question from potential entrants is 'I do not know if I can do this' to which I usually answer, 'that's the whole point'.--Paul Charteris, Tarawera Ultramarathon RD.

     

    √ Javelina Jundred Jalloween 2015

    Cruel Jewel 50 mile May 2016

    Western States 100 June 2016

      I was at that race...Susan does an AMAZING job... I can't believe anyone would complain.  Very sad. 

       

      Awesome race, two thumbs up.  Will definitely go back next year.


      Imminent Catastrophe

        I've wanted to do GT for a couple years but never made it (I spent a lot of time in T or C growing up). Now I'll have to interview!

        Or maybe you could vouch for me 


        MTA: I'm low-maintenance. I promise.

        "Able to function despite imminent catastrophe"

         "To obtain the air that angels breathe you must come to Tahoe"--Mark Twain

        "The most common question from potential entrants is 'I do not know if I can do this' to which I usually answer, 'that's the whole point'.--Paul Charteris, Tarawera Ultramarathon RD.

         

        √ Javelina Jundred Jalloween 2015

        Cruel Jewel 50 mile May 2016

        Western States 100 June 2016

          Wow! I can't blame the RD one bit.  And I think the "invitation only" is a great idea, as long as there is still hope for newbies to get in, too, which apparently there will be via a questionaire.  there should be a "Banned from Trail Running"  blog identifying the badly behaved runners by name- public shame to those who deserve it!  It would be interesting to see who they are - young? new to trails? used to winning road runs?  I have my theories, but I'll keep my mouth shut .
          Next up: A 50k in ? Done: California-Oregon-Arizona-Nevada (x2)-Wisconsin-Wyoming-Utah-Michigan-Colorado


          under a rock

            I hate to hear that so many people were jackasses. Sadly all sports have them. It sucks when a sport known for being more down to earth and friendly gets marred by such behavior. Other than enjoying running trails I like it for the people as well. I hope I don't ever cross paths with any people that feel so entitled at a race.


            Imminent Catastrophe

              The thing is, it was only 10-12 out of 100 but they ruined it for everyone.

              I guess that's the inevitable result of the rapidly increasing popularity of ultrarunning.

              "Able to function despite imminent catastrophe"

               "To obtain the air that angels breathe you must come to Tahoe"--Mark Twain

              "The most common question from potential entrants is 'I do not know if I can do this' to which I usually answer, 'that's the whole point'.--Paul Charteris, Tarawera Ultramarathon RD.

               

              √ Javelina Jundred Jalloween 2015

              Cruel Jewel 50 mile May 2016

              Western States 100 June 2016

              Buzzie


              Bacon Party!

                Sad indeed.

                 

                When I first learned about this trail running and ultra stuff (less than a year ago), I read the stories of yore and longed to be a part of this quirky peace- and earth-loving group. Now,  as a participant, I'm concerned that things have grown too big - record crowds, lotteries, sponsorships and commercialism.

                 

                I picked up others' litter on the trail while running Rocky Raccoon this weekend (a race with a record number of participants), carting it however many miles until the next aid station. (Although, I should add that I did not witness or hear of any other bad behavior.)

                 

                Ghost Town is on my list of must-do events. I wanted to try for entry this year, but needed to get a 50-miler to qualify for Umstead (not wanting to be one to ask for special dispensation). I hope that I'm able to do it one day - and, even more, that the event continues even if I'm not.

                Liz

                pace sera, sera

                  Why is it that the actions of a few butt heads can ruin things for so many?  Kudos to the RD for posting that letter.  Hopefully the rude few read it and realizes what asses they were.  . . . but that's probably hoping for too much.

                  Leslie
                  Living and Running Behind the Redwood Curtain
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                  Trail Runner Nation

                  Sally McCrae-Choose Strong

                  Bare Performance

                   


                  Imminent Catastrophe

                     

                    Awesome race, two thumbs up.  Will definitely go back next year.

                     

                    ...unless YOU were one of the 12! 

                    "Able to function despite imminent catastrophe"

                     "To obtain the air that angels breathe you must come to Tahoe"--Mark Twain

                    "The most common question from potential entrants is 'I do not know if I can do this' to which I usually answer, 'that's the whole point'.--Paul Charteris, Tarawera Ultramarathon RD.

                     

                    √ Javelina Jundred Jalloween 2015

                    Cruel Jewel 50 mile May 2016

                    Western States 100 June 2016


                    #2867

                      From the letter and the followup discussion on the ultralist that the letter started, I don't think it will be very difficult to get into GT - she wants a good mix of new and returning runners after all, but is just trying to minimize the headaches and heartache of a few bad apples.

                       

                      On another note, I don't think all of the problem people were necessarily runners - some were just spectators that came to support a runner.  My guess is that the problematic non-runners probably came with the problematic runners so hopefully eliminating that hurdle drastically reduces the issues then and there.

                       

                      I don't think I'm going to be in a situation where I can travel next January, but I have some friends about 3 hours from GT so hopefully in 2012 or 2013 I can get out for the race.

                      Run to Win
                      25 Marathons, 17 Ultras, 16 States (Full List)

                         

                        ...unless YOU were one of the 12! 

                         LOL!!  I actually got my invite already (and Susan gave me a giant hug when I left), so I think I'm good.

                         

                        It's like going to mom's house for the weekend.  The food she makes us is AMAZING!


                        #2867

                           

                          It's like going to mom's house for the weekend.  The food she makes us is AMAZING!

                           

                          I'm sold...heheh.

                          Run to Win
                          25 Marathons, 17 Ultras, 16 States (Full List)


                          Imminent Catastrophe

                            From the letter and the followup discussion on the ultralist that the letter started, I don't think it will be very difficult to get into GT - she wants a good mix of new and returning runners after all, but is just trying to minimize the headaches and heartache of a few bad apples.

                             

                            On another note, I don't think all of the problem people were necessarily runners - some were just spectators that came to support a runner.  My guess is that the problematic non-runners probably came with the problematic runners so hopefully eliminating that hurdle drastically reduces the issues then and there.

                             

                            I don't think I'm going to be in a situation where I can travel next January, but I have some friends about 3 hours from GT so hopefully in 2012 or 2013 I can get out for the race.

                             Sorry Blaine, I should have credited you for that link.

                            That was in Blaine's Run To Win newsletter

                            "Able to function despite imminent catastrophe"

                             "To obtain the air that angels breathe you must come to Tahoe"--Mark Twain

                            "The most common question from potential entrants is 'I do not know if I can do this' to which I usually answer, 'that's the whole point'.--Paul Charteris, Tarawera Ultramarathon RD.

                             

                            √ Javelina Jundred Jalloween 2015

                            Cruel Jewel 50 mile May 2016

                            Western States 100 June 2016


                            Happy

                              Good discussion - reading Susan's letter gives material for thought.

                               

                              Being mindful and respectful of those that have put their heart and many hours, weeks, and/or months into preparing the race and the event complete with food, drinks, ribbons and markers etc etc is important. So often people are rude - I count myself in that group too. We tend to forget that not everything is corporate and owned by some faceless entity physically far removed from the location of business - rather, there are small "businesses" that are owned and operated by the owners themselves and or a few family members or employees that are trusted. They do all the hard work including paying the bills and dealing with all the legal matters and much more. They provide the framework and make it possible for us to enjoy the day in a relatively carefree manner. Let us not litter - with foul language or otherwise.


                              Thanks for bringing this issue to our awareness.




                              5K, 4/28/07 24:16 PR 10K, 5/5/07 49:23 PR 1/2 M, 12/08/07 1:49:34 PR Marathon, 12/09/06 3:57:37 BQ 50K, 10/04/2009 7:27:00 PB 40M, 4/17/2010 11:20:00 PB


                              #2867

                                 Sorry Blaine, I should have credited you for that link.

                                That was in Blaine's Run To Win newsletter

                                 

                                No worries - you linked and that was credit enough. Smile  I just wanted to weigh in with my thoughts.

                                 

                                Susan did 99% of the work there anyway...I just saw a great topic on the ultralist and asked her if I could share it. I thought it was a good letter and my operating assumption is that a very very small percentage of my newsletter are on the ultralist, heheh.

                                Run to Win
                                25 Marathons, 17 Ultras, 16 States (Full List)

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