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Hydration for Xmas...Recommendations Pls! (Read 239 times)

jamezilla


Follower of Forrest

    If I ask nicely I believe Santa will bring me a hydration setup for christmas.  I'm thinking I would like something that would hold 2-16oz ish bottles, my iPhone and essentials.  I guess the main concern for these is bouncing around, leaking, and weight distributing (am I missing anything?).

     

    Would you get a camelback instead?  I have a cheapo one but it rubs and is not very adjustable.  

     

    Any input is welcomed. 

     

    The idea is to use it for self supported 20+ mile runs on a trail incase that affects your opinion.

    6/21 - Manitou's Revenge 54mi

     

    A man may never run the same trail twice for it is not the same trail and he is not the same man


     

    NorNev


      Check over on the Trailor trash Forum....they are discussing this same thing, plus they have a link to web sites.

      jamezilla


      Follower of Forrest

        Got it. Thank you

        6/21 - Manitou's Revenge 54mi

         

        A man may never run the same trail twice for it is not the same trail and he is not the same man


         

          Look at ultraspire. They have a new vest coming out designed to carry bottles instead of a bladder. 


          Imminent Catastrophe

            Ultraspire Kinetic. It carries two bottles and whatever else you need. I used it in a 100-miler and loved it--no chafing, hardly knew I had it on. Only trouble is it may be out of stock. Bottles are SO much more versatile and convenient than a bladder.

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            mtwarden


            running under the BigSky

              I like bottles too- I like one to use w/ Perpetuem, the other water- you can see exactly where you sit- not so w/ a bladder, plus harder to refill

               

              I use a bladder on unsupported runs that don't have water, otherwise it's bottles (handhelds)

               

              Ultimate Direction came out w/ a signature series that uses bottles held in front (three different models), they lasted all of one day Sad  They won't have anymore till late February at the earliest, they most not have made very many sadly

               

              I'll have to look at the Kinetic

                                                                         2014 

              HURL Fat Ass 50k  1/11- DNS sick :(

              Zion Traverse 47 miles 4/5 DNS :( stress fracture in heel

              Don't Fence Me In 30k  14k 5/10 ✓

              Pengelly Double Dip 13.1 miles & 3000' 6/7 ✓

              Devils Backbone 50 mile (I'm running 25 as a two person relay) 7/19 ✓ Wow!

              Ellkhorn 23k 8/2- this is a maybe- little close to the Bridger????

              Bridge Ridge Run 20 miles 8/9

                I've been looking for a Kinetic medium at least 6 months. I wasn't sure how sensitive the sizing was and considered buying a large, but they also disappeared before I ordered. They've had the "out of stock" on their page for months. I'd intended to try it in a couple races this past summer that have aid stations. I prefer a bladder for drinking, but the bottles are definitely faster at aid stations. And the Kinetic has lots of pockets up front where you can easily get things.

                 

                 

                PS: I stand corrected. Someone is trying to sell a medium through Amazon for $500. yea, right.

                "So many people get stuck in the routine of life that their dreams waste away. This is about living the dream." - Cave Dog
                jamezilla


                Follower of Forrest

                  So if I want to do bottles, the recommendation is to look at bottle vests (if I can find them)?

                  6/21 - Manitou's Revenge 54mi

                   

                  A man may never run the same trail twice for it is not the same trail and he is not the same man


                   

                  FurShirtFlyer


                    +1 for the Ultimate Direction signature series with bottle holders on the front of their vest. The Jurek signature pack is going to be my x-mas gift this year.


                    Uh oh... now what?

                      So if I want to do bottles, the recommendation is to look at bottle vests (if I can find them)?

                       If most listed how many hydration thingies they have, or had, it would probably fill the page.

                       

                      I have three single-bottle belts, two two-bottle belts (one from '86), a CamelBak 100 ouncer,

                      and a dark closet where individual bottles breed when the door is closed.

                       

                      What works great for one is something the next person does not like at all.  My wife does

                      not like any type of backpack, but like almost any belt.  Neither of us care for the vests.

                       

                      I do think the 16-ounce bottles are a mistake.  The typical bottle is 20+ ounces.  That eight

                      ounces (additional?) water from two 20-ounce bottles versus two 16-ouncers is quite a

                      bit when out running.

                       

                      I probably use the two-bottle belt and one or two handhelds for longish runs just as much

                      as the 100-ounce CamelBak for things when no water is available along the way.

                      mtwarden


                      running under the BigSky

                        +1 for the Ultimate Direction signature series with bottle holders on the front of their vest. The Jurek signature pack is going to be my x-mas gift this year.

                         

                        hope you can find one, I tried to buy one of their "AK" packs the day after they were released, sold out in a day Shocked  they won't have anymore until the end of February Sad

                         

                        ^ I agree on the 20 (or 22oz) bottles over 16's- unless you're running a very short distance, I can typically (obviously weather and exertion can change things in a hurry Big grin) get over an hour w/ a single 22 oz bottle

                                                                                   2014 

                        HURL Fat Ass 50k  1/11- DNS sick :(

                        Zion Traverse 47 miles 4/5 DNS :( stress fracture in heel

                        Don't Fence Me In 30k  14k 5/10 ✓

                        Pengelly Double Dip 13.1 miles & 3000' 6/7 ✓

                        Devils Backbone 50 mile (I'm running 25 as a two person relay) 7/19 ✓ Wow!

                        Ellkhorn 23k 8/2- this is a maybe- little close to the Bridger????

                        Bridge Ridge Run 20 miles 8/9

                          I asked Ultraspire when they expected to get some Kinetics in. They said probably next week with their webpage updated by after Jan 1. They may supply their retailers before they put them on their website, but not sure.

                          "So many people get stuck in the routine of life that their dreams waste away. This is about living the dream." - Cave Dog

                            If your set on UltraSpire, you may want to call one of their preferred retailers, the St. George Running Center, in Utah. They've had things in stock, when the website said they were on back order. UltraSpire headquarters is a few miles down the road from their store. 

                            They are able to ship quite a few things. 

                            http://www.stgeorgerunningcenter.com/

                            ALTRjeff


                              I'm a UD Wasp fan, but have not seen the newer hydra packs out there.  Mostly because I have had no issues with mine for over a decade & if it ain't broke, don't fix it mentality.

                               

                              I recommend working an aid station at any 50+ mile ultra and see what others use & are happy with. Ask the runners themselves, if it works well.     At the time I bought mine, after working Hardrock, UD Wasp & Nathan 020 were the packs to have.