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Hi, my name is edr and I am diabetic (Read 389 times)

edr


    apparently.

    A1c test of 6.6 - 7.0, depending on the test date.

    fasting BS of 132; post-meal of 180

    not sure where I belong, but happy to join.

    I run 40-50 mpw  , race at bet ween 7:00 - 8:00 pace

    glad to be a part of the group

     

    why would BS go up after a morning workout, before I have any food/drink intake?

    thanx for reading

      Hi & welcome,

      I just joined this group yesterday.


      I don't know why but I do know that exercise can raise your blood sugar. I guess this is why if your bg hits 240, you're not supposed to exercise. 


      What's your blood sugar before you exercise?


      What is it an hour after exercise? 2 hours? 


      Mine can go up or stay about the same during a run but then drops after awhile.



      edr


        Hi Sweeter - I've only been monitoring for four days, but the BS is 130 fasting, 180 two hours after eating.

        After my run this morning, it was 154, which threw me for a loop.

        I race half marathons and I've not noticed any adverse BS effect during the races.

        This all new to me and both my general doc and my endrocronologist are clueless as to endurance athletes and diabetes.

          A lot of things it seems like we have figure out for ourselves.


          I'm thinking of getting this book -- Diabetic Athlete's Handbook.


          There is a group at TuDiabetes for athletic diabetics. I'm a member but not very active over there. I don't know how active the group is but wouldn't hurt to check it out I suppose.

          Johnny Mac


            I am new to this site today.  I am a new runner but have been pretty dedicated since oct 09 and really hooked.   My last AC1 freaked me out at 5.2.   I am to interested in responses.  I am getting the urge to run further and want to know I wont die (but have bad lows) and know if I don't have to worry about lows while I am running.  I usually carry glucose tabs with me but have not had to use them.  pace around 8:15 and 12-15 miles week, need to run further faster.

             

            I am type 1 on pump.  My blood sugars usually go low 3-6 hours after a run and I try to add low calorie carbs to correct.   Before i run I like to be 140-180 and will correct if I am lower before I run.  my doctor and diabetec specialist tells me to not be to concerned about after the run cause they will most likely be outta wac.

             

            I should probably start my own discussion on this, but i guess I'm looking for distance runners with diabetes on how they cope and have they had lows during a run.  I am afraid i will not notice a low while running and then its to late, I don't have a cgm nor do i think I can afford it for now.

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            The voice of mile 18

              Hi Edr - as I understand it when you work out hard sometimes your blood sugar can go up due to a reaction to the adrenaline/hormones pumping thur your bloodstream.  it's not uncommon to get a spike after a workout though mine can go either way.

               

              Hi Johnny Mac - I'ma t2 but i've done three marathons (only one of them i did good at it but the other two were cause I trained like an idiiot)  generally  i run w/ gu's and gels like powergel or carbboom or my favorite sport jelly beans it's 25g of fast carbs in a small bag.  I usually take them on long runs just in case and usually start eating for runs over 90 minutes and 1 gel per hour.  they are simplier to digest than real food but you have to do some shopping to find one that agrees w/ your stomach

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                Johnny Mac, does 5.2 freak you out b/c you've had a lot of lows? that is a fear of mine, going low during a run.


                Do you carry your meter and ID with you on runs? 

                  Hi edr - I've noticed my bG is sometimes higher than expected right after a hard run.  Most of the time this is not the case.  If it's an easy pace or even a tempo run, it generally drops 20-40 

                   

                  Johnny Mac - I am recently diagnosed (thought I was t2 last year - ran a marathon in November, diagnosed t1 in December) I always take glucose tabs with me on a run just in case.  If you are concerned about your bG during longer runs, Sweeter's advice (taking your monitor along) makes a lot of sense.  I have some concerns about long runs, too.  I plan to run a marathon in the fall and it will be the first time doing this while on insulin.  I expect I will make a few changes - 1.  all long runs with my running partner rather than solo; 2.  carry my monitor with me; 3.  always have glucose tabs and/or GU with me. 

                   

                  Kenny

                  Iza


                    More strenuous efforts can cause blood glucose levels to spike upwards, because the body is reacting to the stress and the liver pumps out more glucose to try to supply the body what it feels is needed. In a non-diabetic, the body compensates for that by providing more insulin -- in type 1s, the body can't respond with more insulin, in type 2s, the problem of insulin resistance means that the inefficient use of insulin can make it that even though more insulin is being made, it's not enough and the blood sugar can climb upwards.

                     

                    Johnny Mac


                      Johnny Mac, does 5.2 freak you out b/c you've had a lot of lows? that is a fear of mine, going low during a run.


                      Do you carry your meter and ID with you on runs? 

                      I will get retested next month with my specialist because 5.2 seems to low.  I do get lows occasionally, but not that much more then when i was fat and outashape, at least that I noticed.  I have also adjusted all my insulins lower in the last few months, and if i remember I will temp lower my basil before i go on a run.   When I go low I feel it coming on, which is lucky.

                       

                      When I run I dont carry my meter, maybe i should get a bag or something.   I leave my pump on so I feel like I am carrying to much stuff.  nor do I feel like stopping to test it.  Can people test while actually running?  I am not sure I have the talent to do it.

                       

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                      Johnny Mac


                        Hi edr - I've noticed my bG is sometimes higher than expected right after a hard run.  Most of the time this is not the case.  If it's an easy pace or even a tempo run, it generally drops 20-40 

                         

                        Johnny Mac - I am recently diagnosed (thought I was t2 last year - ran a marathon in November, diagnosed t1 in December) I always take glucose tabs with me on a run just in case.  If you are concerned about your bG during longer runs, Sweeter's advice (taking your monitor along) makes a lot of sense.  I have some concerns about long runs, too.  I plan to run a marathon in the fall and it will be the first time doing this while on insulin.  I expect I will make a few changes - 1.  all long runs with my running partner rather than solo; 2.  carry my monitor with me; 3.  always have glucose tabs and/or GU with me. 

                         

                        Kenny

                         Sorry to hear you were missed diagnosed.  I believe anyone who is fit or has not lost a ton of weight when first diagnosed should go on insulin. that year of battling can hurt your organs.   I was 10 years until I went on pump in Jan 09.  I struggled with HAC1's between 6.4-7.1 for all those years.  Since I went on the pump my highest has been 6.1.  With 3 full months of exercise I read that 5.2.  I suggest you do anything to get your self on the pump if your not all ready.

                         

                        Thanks for the advice on the long runs.  Common sense tells me to just be smart about it as you mentioned.  Lows scare me.  

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                        Johnny Mac


                          Hi Edr - as I understand it when you work out hard sometimes your blood sugar can go up due to a reaction to the adrenaline/hormones pumping thur your bloodstream.  it's not uncommon to get a spike after a workout though mine can go either way.

                           

                          Hi Johnny Mac - I'ma t2 but i've done three marathons (only one of them i did good at it but the other two were cause I trained like an idiiot)  generally  i run w/ gu's and gels like powergel or carbboom or my favorite sport jelly beans it's 25g of fast carbs in a small bag.  I usually take them on long runs just in case and usually start eating for runs over 90 minutes and 1 gel per hour.  they are simplier to digest than real food but you have to do some shopping to find one that agrees w/ your stomach

                           Thanks.  Its good to hear that i can infact run marathons with diabetes.   My doctor, who runs marathons and who I have been seeing for 20+years, tells me he doesn't have diabetec patience who run marathons.   I think he kind of laughed when I asked about it, (Im ok with his snarkyness because he knows my family history and how unfit I have been the last 20 years).   I will do a half this fall.  I just signed up for 10k in June with a goal to break 50 minutes.  Cheers!

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                            I know of one diabetic runner who has run an ultra in 2009 (late May or June). He did it on his own with family support. He talked about it on his blog Running from Diabetes and did a couple of podcast episodes. I think he's on a pump.


                            To be honest, I don't carry my meter on runs. I know I should but it feels like a hassle. I do have a spibelt that can hold my meter (One Touch Ultra Mini) along with my iphone, keys, sports beans. It's pretty stretchy so can cram more than you'd think into it.


                            jpnairn


                            straw man

                              Yes. I'm a diabetic marathoner and ultramarathoner, and I know many others. Let me know if you have any questions.

                              He who has the best time wins. Jerry

                                First thing in the morning is usually when your body has run out of all that insulin you injected the day before. The natural thing to happen then is for your your blood glucose level to creep up. If it were me, I would take the tiniest bit of insulin before working out, or take your long-acting AM dose, just to allow your body to use the glycogen your liver produces when you exercise.

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