2011 Goal of Sub 20 5k (Read 4848 times)

    Wow.  I would take it in a second!

     

    Of course, your Garmin could be wrong too.  But, if you can verify the true distance (car?) absolutely.

    2014 Goals

    Weight - 200 lbs (currently 211)

    2000 miles?

    Work on stretching and flexibility an stay healthy for Boston 2014 (have a BQ -9:00 time)

    Marathon - 3:10 

    HM 1:29:59

    10k - 40:00

    5k - 19:00

     

      Wow.  I would take it in a second!

       

      Of course, your Garmin could be wrong too.  But, if you can verify the true distance (car?) absolutely.

       

      BTW - cars can be very inaccurate. Your GPS will typically be better. A well calibrated cycle computer better still. 

        So here's a question for ya: 

        I just ran a 5k on New Year's Eve. I ran a 20:40. 

        However, the race measured long - everyone's Garmin showed 3.25. Even the race website showed it was 3.22.

        If that's the case, I ran a 6:24 pace - which translates to a 19:53 "true" 5k race. 
        Would you count that as a sub-20? I'm torn. I want to - I feel like that's legit, but wondering your opinions.

        Thanks! 

         Do whatever you want. But seriously, this whole idea that "my Garmin said this, and my buddy's Garmin said that, so if I take this and that and adjust this, my ACTUAL pace would have been such and such, which in turn would have given me THIS for my race time," is getting pretty ridiculous. I hear this same discussion going on at almost every race I run now. The only official race distance and time is from the start line to the finish line and what it says on the race clock. Taking anything other than that as "legit" or a "PR" is stretching, regardless of what everyone's Garmins say or what the race director admits to after the race. But your time only means something to you, so what it comes down to is, do whatever you want. Justify whatever you want. No one elses opinion really matters much. But since you asked.... I say heck no it doesn't count Smile

          Factor in, too, that a certified course is intentionally longer than the precise distance, so the calculated "equivalent time" for 5000m is optimistic anyway.

          “Everything you need is already inside.” -- Bill Bowerman

            Factor in, too, that a certified course is intentionally longer than the precise distance, so the calculated "equivalent time" for 5000m is optimistic anyway.

             Yep, the way courses are measured and certified, it is physically impossible to run the true race distance. Then factor in that Garmins record data from point to point, in a stright line. Granted, those points are very close together and the data is received very frequently, but it will always be recorded longer than the actual running distance, especially if there are a good number of turns on the course. The same reason Garmins "struggle" to be precise on a track.

              Then again if it's the opposite problem (course is short), it's very difficult to just take the time given and feel OK about it.  I would have had a 5K PR last summer if I had chosen to take it. 

               

                Factor in, too, that a certified course is intentionally longer than the precise distance, so the calculated "equivalent time" for 5000m is optimistic anyway.

                 

                Indeed.  I tried to account for that--was shooting for a 19:59, so ran for more like a 19:40 in terms of pace, figuring it'd be even enough.  My Garmin measured my marathon only 0.12 over--less than half a percent off (certified course, too).  When I did the 5K, it was just shy of 0.15 over...almost five percent.  D'oh. The course was long, sure, but most are (it was also certified).  And I had fun.  And it affirmed my capabilities and made me hungry for the next one.

                 

                Them are the breaks.  I figure I'll get it next time--you will, too, molsen.  I didn't count mine, either.

                "When a person trains once, nothing happens. When a person forces himself to do a thing a hundred or a thousand times, then he certainly has developed in more ways than physical. Is it raining? That doesn't matter. Am I tired? That doesn't matter, either. Then willpower will be no problem." 
                Emil Zatopek

                  Then again if it's the opposite problem (course is short), it's very difficult to just take the time given and feel OK about it.  I would have had a 5K PR last summer if I had chosen to take it. 

                   Oh, in THAT case I always take the PR! Just kidding! Big grin I am the same way. If I am certain a course is short, I can't justify taking the PR in my own mind. It would just always bug me.

                    Anyone going to do a 2012 thread? 

                    "If you have the fire, run..." -John Climacus

                      Anyone going to do a 2012 thread? 

                       

                      Here it is.

                      "When a person trains once, nothing happens. When a person forces himself to do a thing a hundred or a thousand times, then he certainly has developed in more ways than physical. Is it raining? That doesn't matter. Am I tired? That doesn't matter, either. Then willpower will be no problem." 
                      Emil Zatopek


                      Prince of Fatness

                        Anyone going to do a 2012 thread? 

                         

                        Dude, pay attention.  The 2012 thread has been out there for a while.

                        Semi-retired.