2018 3:20 (and beyond) (Read 582 times)

Going to go out at 1:35 for the half aiming for a safe BQ.  Ckub challenge will hopefully confirm I'm not crazy, but can't see changing my plan unless I run 1:09 or something.

Had a scale and it died or the battery died.  Wound up buying another scale.  The battery died on that one and I never replaced it, so no scale.

Off today, went to see Mark Bowden speak about his Hue book.  He's local and even wrote a book about the Colts-Giants championship game from '58.  And that Somali helicopter crash book, of course, that one was pretty popular.

Ace - I can't say I've heard many people use the term, "marathoner." I could see my wife telling someone that her husband runs marathons, but probably wouldn't say, "marathoner." Although it could be fun to add it to your business card:
John Doe, Ph.D., Marathoner

Nick - do post a picture of you wearing the mittens while running on the treadmill please.

Keen - Seems like treadmills should allow you to program in those intervals. But if they did, you better pay attention. 9 minute pace to 6 minute pace: GO! Also - good luck in the 15k.

Sam - I think the formula is Cat Parent + Hobby Jogger = Marathoner.

DW - right, downhill portions for XC skiing is like cycling - tuck in and hold on!

Pepper - have a good race!

I didn't mention that we've also been having warmer mornings and that probably affected my track workout too. It was 64F then. For my second 4 miles last night, I had to bike home, change, and drive my daughter to dance which is right by where my running group does a Thursday evening run.

Time was short and I didn't really fuel up as normal before biking home due to a 4pm meeting. I basically "went out too fast" on my bike ride home. I ate an apple on the way to the run, but still just about bonked only 2 miles in. Luckily we were doing a relaxed pace and I finished okay.

Driving back home I had to stop by the store. I was craving some of their chicken wings they put out by the deli, but they were out. A worker was there putting discount coupons on so the stuff would sell. She said she'd put an extra dollar off if I took the fried chicken. I couldn't turn that down and ate a leg on the one mile drive to the house. Then I had dinner along with another piece of the fried chicken. Being a marathoner makes you hungr!

Ace:  I think THIS is what the article is referring to (and maybe that was supposed to read 'elbow to knee', not heel).  I'm going to have to try this later today.  I have no idea on marathoner status, but if I can add that to my title, then I'm also going to add 5Ker, 10Ker, half-marathoner, beer drinker, etc...  ;-)

Dad:  And a lot of the men's half-pipe ski finals reminded me of "the agony of defeat."
Sam:  Hi.  Run some, post some.  Does the fact that you are a jogger mean that your hip is any better?

Dwave:  What if we are cat parents but can't run.  Are those people still welcome here?  (In a different universe, this would be like asking people on a cat forum if you can post even though you hate cats.)

Assuming that one day I can start running again, I've started looking at Black Canyon replacements later this year, in the hopes of qualifying for the next Western States lottery.  Getting any sort of PR this year is out the window for me, unless I go long. 

OMAR - I like to say that my hip is 'quiet', but it clearly is not the same as it used to be. *something* is still there.

I have committed to a long term training plan, with a goal race in August. Sounds crazy long, but I have kept the consistency so far. I am on week 7, no slips.

Oh, btw, is there some sort of Strava group for sub 3:20?

dwave- "I'm guessing downhills don't pound skiiers the same way they do runners?"  nope, certainly not, though the mini-downhills the XC skiers have are not as easy as 'float downhill on skis' like you do for alpine skiing ... no no. i learned that the hard way a few years ago. it's really hard to stay stable going downhill on nordic skis once you pick up any amount of speed, since they are narrow and have no edges. i would guess that's why the olympic XC skiers kinda pick up their feet and do a running-type thing when they hit a downhill.

speaking of XC skiing, kind of, i finally have that athlete cardiologist appointment next friday. this guy has been working with stanford's running teams and other high level athletes for decades, so i won't get any of that "omg ur RHR is so low u must be ded" crap I got from my GP. there will be a few parts to the appointment, one of which will be a treadmill vo2max test. kinda excited for that one  will be cool to see how it's improved since several years ago (when i was the guinea pig to demonstrate vo2max test for a biomedical engineering sports medicine class i took).

rune- ha, no way! it was a good meet. i was especially impressed that there were so many people doing field events!!
what is Cooper's test?
i ran the 3200 exactly once as a young(er) person, in 13:56. lol. would have been upset to not smash that "PR" last weekend :P

that is a fast 800!! i will never run a 2:19 in my life (i'll probably also never try to), but i'm hoping to get under 19:44 for 5k this season...

WOW i just checked the ORF website. that new marathon course is..... "urban". i guess it's nice from a time perspective that it's flat, but that is a lot of turns and a pretty ugly course now. the 2 times i ran the half, i had a lot of fun hanging out in snow park afterwards. i wonder how the post-race aspect will be now that it's at lake merritt.

speaking of lake merritt, jim, BF and i will be at your club's race on sunday. see you there?

SAM!!!!!!!

RLK - Cooper’s test is run as far as you can in 12 minutes. It was never anything short of brutal.

Still lurking here, just dropping by quickly to answer PJ's question. It was a 10 k race that felt more like a time trial. The course is 9.8k, so I kept running the extra 200ish meters to complete the 10k. 

This is becoming a trend for this group....

Matt - I  have also experienced that point in the cycle where one's gut is apparently bottomless.

Ace - hopefully it's just a passing thing.  Good on you for pulling the plug and ignoring your inner HS-er.  It's one of those things that is so hard to do in the moment.

OMR - cat people who cannot run are always welcome.

R+BNb  - now that is an impressive photo.  -15 or so would be where I'd just skip the run #wimp.

Rune - well that course change had to be a pleasant surprise.  BTW, we redid our kitchen two years ago while I was training for Chicago.  I sympathize - it wasn't fun.

RLK - thanks for the info.  I've done downhill skiing some  (though not in about 15 years), but never cross country.  Reading some articles, apparently it requires more power than running.  Probably why it has no appeal to me.

Hi everyone I missed.  11 miles total today.  7.5 very easy to the gym (9:13), then did some light weights work and core, plus DIY yoga. Then 3.5 miles very easy home (8:47) plus drills+uphill strides.