2020 Marathon Training and relevant COVID 19 discussion echo chamber (Read 637 times)

dpschumacher


Making a comeback

    Me and the old man. I'm 6 foot (with 6'2 and 6'3 brothers and a 5'7 mom). He is a tiny guy and still hitting roads daily at 66

     

     

    2019 Goal: Run every day Goal: Get to 165 lbs Goal: Get in shape to be able to run 2 marathons in 2020

    2020 Goals:

    5k:16:30

    HM: 1:18:00

    Marathon: 2:45:00

    New 2020 Goal: Actually run a race, any race, just run a real legit race. **Eye Twitching**

    Running Problem


    Curmudgeon


      Brew - Great job on snagging that KOM. Even if it was downhill, you've given me another distance PR of yours that I need to chase.


      Oh, and Camille as #4 ultra runner of the year?? How many world records must one crush to get the #1 spot?

       

      So now I have you AND OMR coming after me. I guess I know how CalBears feels with me going for his marathon PR. I'll make sure to look up his grave to say "HA! I DID IT OLD MAN! WHAT NOW?" I'm sure my son will wonder why I'm yelling at a tombstone like I'm some kind of internet badass.

       

      Oh and Camille was apparently the 2017 ultra runner of the year after a couple world records and winning some ultra in Africa. I can't believe Jared Hazen is third. I figured, social media jokes about him at Western States, he would come in second. I'm not sure what they're thinking over there because he broke Jim's 2018 record too along with some other big stuff. Maybe Chris Mocko gets 2nd because he earned a lot of followers at YouTube. Not trying to be funny...Jared Hazen deserves to be at least second best ultra runner this year...behind Jim Walmsley but I don't think Jim deserves the top spot just because he won states and broke 15 because Jared did more.

      2020 Goal: Figure out the problem.

      dpschumacher


      Making a comeback

        OMR do you live in the twin cities? If not and you're driving in for TC marathon, I live next to light rail if you want to park at my place. Easy access to the start and short ride back afterward and avoid traffic. Just an FYI. If not in the cities I'm guessing Northfield?

         

        I am running the TC 10 that morning

        2019 Goal: Run every day Goal: Get to 165 lbs Goal: Get in shape to be able to run 2 marathons in 2020

        2020 Goals:

        5k:16:30

        HM: 1:18:00

        Marathon: 2:45:00

        New 2020 Goal: Actually run a race, any race, just run a real legit race. **Eye Twitching**

        CalBears


          So now I have you AND OMR coming after me. I guess I know how CalBears feels with me going for his marathon PR. I'll make sure to look up his grave to say "HA! I DID IT OLD MAN! WHAT NOW?" I'm sure my son will wonder why I'm yelling at a tombstone like I'm some kind of internet badass.

           

           

          Bwah-ha-ha brew. It's not only about a marathon PR, it's also about timing - my marathon PR is the Moose Mug time. Run your Moose Mug time (sub 2:36 I guess???) and we will be talking. Until then, stop comparing my PRs and your PRs - it's a shame for a man of your age to run a marathon just a minute or so faster than my old man PR 

          paces PRs - 5K - 5:55  /  10K - 6:05  /  HM - 6:14  /  FM - 6:26 per mile

          Running Problem


          Curmudgeon

             

            Bwah-ha-ha brew. It's not only about a marathon PR, it's also about timing - my marathon PR is the Moose Mug time. Run your Moose Mug time (sub 2:36 I guess???) and we will be talking. Until then, stop comparing my PRs and your PRs - it's a shame for a man of your age to run a marathon just a minute or so faster than my old man PR 

             

            I'd quit running as soon as I had that mug and I'd make sure I'd run it at CIM because it is less downhill than Boston and I don't want that much assistance. Plus CIM is a better race than Boston. It is fun trying to hang with the "old guys" and I hope to be in the same shape (maybe less round) as you when I'm creeping up on 60 years old. I honestly never thought you'd be as old as you are when we met. I figured maybe early 40s after learning about you from rlk over in the 3:20 threads. If I was REAL crazy I'd come do Miwok or challenge you at Quicksilver.

            2020 Goal: Figure out the problem.


            Elite Jogger

               

              Bwah-ha-ha brew. It's not only about a marathon PR, it's also about timing - my marathon PR is the Moose Mug time. Run your Moose Mug time (sub 2:36 I guess???) and we will be talking. Until then, stop comparing my PRs and your PRs - it's a shame for a man of your age to run a marathon just a minute or so faster than my old man PR 

               

              Cal - take it as a positive and be flattered that brew wants to beat your PR....you’re old enough to be his dad. 

              5k - 17:53 (4/19)   10k - 37:53 (11/18)   Half - 1:23:18 (4/19)   Full - 2:50:43 (4/19)

              CalBears


                 

                I'd quit running as soon as I had that mug and I'd make sure I'd run it at CIM because it is less downhill than Boston and I don't want that much assistance. Plus CIM is a better race than Boston. It is fun trying to hang with the "old guys" and I hope to be in the same shape (maybe less round) as you when I'm creeping up on 60 years old. I honestly never thought you'd be as old as you are when we met. I figured maybe early 40s after learning about you from rlk over in the 3:20 threads. If I was REAL crazy I'd come do Miwok or challenge you at Quicksilver.

                 

                I am not that old I think - health-wise, at least. I do not see any difference between me at 45 (before I started running) and now at almost 55. I suspect, people are like Hondas - there is no much difference between new Honda and 10 years old Honda - reliability-wise, but when your Honda is 20-25 years old everything just starts breaking and there is no way around it...

                 

                Actually, I am not that good of a marathoner for sure, at least in my mind - there is this 59 years old guy from Sacramento who runs CIM every year - Iain Mickle - he ran 2:42 this year. I just shake my head every time I think about him and how useless and slow I am comparing to those old dude(s) 

                 

                Quicksilver (Miwok) - yeah, you would probably had a chance to beat me without too much effort - I am really slow in those events - something just doesn't work very well for me there. Of course I have an incentive to run ultras to finally get to WSER100, but there is also something strangely satisfying in running those events - I think, after running 100K (not to mention 100 miles) you might start looking differently at what you can really achieve in your life with enough perseverance. Of course I didn't achieve much still, but at least I started to look at what I could achieve, differently 

                paces PRs - 5K - 5:55  /  10K - 6:05  /  HM - 6:14  /  FM - 6:26 per mile

                CalBears


                  Cal - take it as a positive and be flattered that brew wants to beat your PR....you’re old enough to be his dad. 

                   

                  No way - I was really really careful to avoid becoming brew's dad 

                  paces PRs - 5K - 5:55  /  10K - 6:05  /  HM - 6:14  /  FM - 6:26 per mile


                  Elite Jogger

                     

                    No way - I was really really careful to avoid becoming brew's dad 

                     

                    Bwahaha!!!

                    5k - 17:53 (4/19)   10k - 37:53 (11/18)   Half - 1:23:18 (4/19)   Full - 2:50:43 (4/19)

                    JMac11


                    Taper Czar

                      DPS - great photo, so cool. You going to get your kids into running, make it a multi-generational thing?

                       

                      Cal - I'm still not at my moose mug time, but quickly approaching. I still bow to your greatness 

                       

                      Mikkey - I guess I bow to your greatness too given you got your moose mug!

                      5K: 16:42 (9/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:15:28 (3/20)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                       

                      Next Race: Whatever COVID-19 will allow me to run 

                      Running Problem


                      Curmudgeon

                         

                        No way - I was really really careful to avoid becoming brew's dad 

                         

                        I'm greatful for this. Russia has already ruined America Switzerland enough.

                         

                         

                        Jmac If you'd quit traveling the world, and grow up get a little older you could get your moose mug. Good course on a great weather day. You'd run it.

                        2020 Goal: Figure out the problem.

                          Nimmals: It's crazy what that guy was wearing back then...if a guy went out running in that today he'd get arrested for indecent exposure. Though I guess Mikkey gets away with it over in the UK.

                           

                          Keen: Nice week, that is exactly the type of week I want to get back to doing! It looks like we tend towards a similar type of training week: 10-ish miles is the standard easy day and 1 hard workout + 1 long run. Only difference is I haven't yet gotten to 7 days/week, usually take Monday off.

                          2:52:16 (2018)

                          Marky_Mark_17


                            Only difference is I haven't yet gotten to 7 days/week, usually take Monday off.

                             

                            I've had some good discussions with other runners about this and I've come to the view it's really an individual thing.

                             

                            Some runners will prefer 7 days/week to get the extra mileage and keep the legs ticking over.  Personally I really like having at least one day off running each week.  Physically it just gives the legs some time to recharge, and mentally it also gives me a bit of a break and it means I look forward to getting back into it the next day.

                             

                            I've had some good chats with a local elite runner, who is a 1:09 half marathoner as well as being a very good sports masseuse.  He is a big advocate of having a day off and is quite fond of saying that the most important day is the one that you don't run.

                            5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) 

                            HM: 1:10:46 (Nov-19) | FM: 2:57:36 (Oct-17)

                            Last race: NZ 10,000m Champs, 21 March, 32:34 (PB) 

                            Up next: Wairarapa Country Marathon, 11 Oct (I HOPE!!!!)

                            "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                            JMac11


                            Taper Czar

                              I'm all about the day or days off, I only run another day if I have to. But I've found once you get to 80, its impossible to run that on 6 days a week. But if you're running 60-70, huge fan of one day off for a mental reset and to do things like run errands, catch up on work, family time, etc.

                              5K: 16:42 (9/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:15:28 (3/20)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                               

                              Next Race: Whatever COVID-19 will allow me to run 

                              OMR


                                DPS:  Thanks, that's a very generous offer.  I actually live in Moorhead, and teach in the land of corn (Concordia Cobbers).  "Fear the Ear!"

                                 

                                Brew:  calbears is the "object may be closer than it appears" person in your rear view mirror.  I'm somewhere behind calbears..."too far away to see."  But, I'm back there...somewhere...