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Cobra Commander Keen
I'm in about the same cholesterol boat as DWave, though my HDL numbers aren't nearly that high. I'm over 200 total (last test anyway, which was at the end of September), which the doc said was a touch high, but then followed that up saying "with a cholesterol ratio like yours who cares?". I do have a slight history of heart disease in the family - but with the current standards for heart disease, who doesn't? My maternal grandfather (my only surviving grandparent at this point) had open heart surgery maybe 25 years ago. Since we're posting numbers...
Total:213
HDL: 71
LDL: 128
Triglycerides: 69
Ratio: 2.99:1
RLK - Wow. I'm not a cardiologist, but from what I know all of those numbers are good and very much on the low side. The cholesterol ratio (chol:hdl) is the lowest I've ever seen or heard of (lower is better, under 3.5:1 is best).
Having almost all of last week off wrecked my heat acclimatization, and this week shaping up to be the hottest of the year certainly isn't helping any. I ended up cutting my run short by a couple miles, and took a bit of a break to boot. At least next week is looking better forecast-wise.
5k: 17:58 11/22 │ 10k: 37:55 9/21 │ HM: 1:23:22 4/22 │ M: 2:56:05 12/22
Upcoming Races:
OKC Memorial 5k - April 27
Bun Run 5k - May 4
Problem Child
jeeze...I guess I need to up my game here. I thought 60s was good but apparently I need to hit the 80s to hang out here and dwave is some kind of amazing with 115+ HDL.
rlk HDL is good. Think of them as your friend. They're saying "Hi" because they're high density lipoproteins and you like people saying hi to you. wait.....shouldn't people in your office know this kind of stuff? Your test results are interesting simply because two factors of the equation (HDL + LDL + Triglycerides = Total Cholesterol) are calculated. SO it's Total - HDL = LDL + Triglycerides. Must be a ratio or something for the lab/doctor to come up with an LDL value. Also, you're due for another test. Pre-CIM data and such.
kcam grandpa (had a doctorate in pharmacology (I think pharmacology) from USC) had quadruple bypass surgery a few years before he died. He was under 90% blockage for all four from what I remember him telling me. He also smiled and laughed at me and said "LIP-AH TORE" when I told him my cholesterol was over 200. I can still hear and see him saying it to me. He also enjoyed swimming distance and did masters Olympics so I got THAT going for me.
omr so you're telling me I can't eat like marathon training when I'm marathon training? Don't you know marathon training sucks? I'm not sure I'm prepared to enter marathon training again. Dad doesn't have a history of heart disease that I'm aware of but maybe I should ask. I'm unsure about any of my 3 uncles hearts. I guess I should look into that. Oh and I've never seen a race with the rule "no dogs allowed even though we've had dogs finish the race" so I guess you can look forward to a dog free event. Maybe they'll let you bring a pet fish. Self serve aid stations? WTF? "That time my drop bag was someone's aid station. Turns out it's a free for all here. Thanks for digging through the bag with my name on it" sounds like a good story and title. Maybe I should sign up. Just to see what kind of snacks you use. Any Mountain Dew/
dwave glad to hear you're slowly getting off the meds. I totally get why you don't know if it's impacted running. Maybe that had something to do with past odd race performances. I'd probably defecate myself if I saw total cholesterol over 200, then defecate additionally seeing 100+ HDL.
keen I had to look up Cholesterol:HDL ratio. Great....another number only the elites hit. FAWKTHISSHEET! AS for diet...Mountain Dew and PB&J seems to work for me. Oh and some iced coffee to chill it to a drinkable temperature. I kind of of do a high fat/low carb meal but I'm a sucker for sweets. Sugarfree rockstars, Costco poppyseed muffins, HALO Ice Cream (KEY to the lifestyle), pretzels and Sabra hummus, and greens I guess. It's also probably part "I have to eat this so my kid sees me eating it or else he won't like it" nonsense coming in to play. Oh and no alcohol. I'm not sure the last part has anything to do with it but I can't rule out it's impact since I haven't gone 2-4 months without drinking prior to this year's results. It's probably more "eat like a 7 year old, but think like an adult and know what's good for you" diet. I'd probably do better if I had more walnuts/pistachios/AVOCADOS/hippy dippy foods. With my degrees one would think I'd know a little more about dieting and nutrition.
Many of us aren't sure what the hell point you are trying to make and no matter how we guess, it always seems to be something else. Which usually means a person is doing it on purpose.
VDOT 53.37
5k18:xx | Marathon 2:55:22
Brew: Well, now that you mention it, there is nothing saying that I am prohibited from running with my cat. I'm sure he would be interested in running 50 miles yards feet with me. I do like the idea of the pet fish, perhaps in a Camelback. Would just have to be sure to not suck through the straw too hard. The self-serve aid stations comment must be there for the relay runners, to let them know that unlike a marathon, volunteers aren't going to be holding beverages out for you. It's a road race, but an ultra. They must have gotten complaints in the past, so feel it necessary to qualify that. This must be why they also say that solo runners cannot be given a ride from their crew. Why not??? I didn't sign up for a 50M so that I would have to run 50M!!
Resident Millennial
brew lol i don't think cholesterol had anything to do with passing out at the end of a massive physical effort. checked heart stuff. bradycardia, unsurprising and arguably normal for an endurance athlete. vo2max test fine. other stuff fine. bloodwork good.
_________________________________________________mile, 5:26 /5k, 19:34 /10k, 41:00 /13.1, 1:31:49 /26.2, 3:12:58
PUH-LEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAASSSSE tell someone you have a fish on you during this race and report back. Maybe in a low moment where you think "actually...his stories include this part, but with more profanity" and then find the nearest person and ask "hey have you seen my pet fish? I had him in the water bottle/bladder when I started. No? Okay well let me know if you find her."
rlk If passing out gets me in I'm there. It's like the ending of a movie, but I don't get to see the ending I just wake up somewhere I've never been feeling like I just passed out wondering who has my medal. "Oh they ran out. Well did you at least stop my Garmin? No. It's fine. I'm sure Strava has it." (Insert sync errors here). Any advice for what song I could use to start a story with where I pass out at the end and no one knows if I actually accomplished my goal (other than killing about an hour of people's productive time on a Thursday)?
pie man
Brew - any recommendations for flying out of Reno? I usually just park at the airport. Flight is a red eye so staying a night somewhere isn’t really an option.
Might have joined the waiting list for a 100k, but I’m in the triple digits, so that doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen.
11:11 3,000 (recent)
Brew: Hmm...maybe a guppy in a small plastic bag, somehow affixed to/inserted in my running shorts? I can't imagine how that could go wrong...
I ran a 5K this evening. A few things...
1) I hate heat/humidity: 84/68 temp/dew point. For us, this year, after a very long and cold/cool winter/spring, this is brutal.
2) My legs were tired from yesterday's midweek MLR: 11.3 miles.
3) I'm old (55) and slow (think "turtle")...
4) I don't like running/racing in the evening.
I planned to run this as a tempo run, not race it. But my legs were tired from #2, and they felt like stumps, so it's not like I was going to run this any faster anyway. Result was 23:06...69.2% AG. The biggest take-away from it all was that my knee was not bothered at all by the faster running, which I have been avoiding for quite a while. So now I have no excuses...
Here's a question for the hive since things have been a bit slow lately:
Specifically during the summer, how much, if any, water do you all drink during a given run?
So far this spring/summer the only runs I've taken water with me on have been LRs (last year I was hauling 16oz+ with me every day). Even with the current heat/humidity I find that I rarely get thirsty (my typical indicator of when to drink) even when running 9-12 miles, and I don't notice any negative effects due to it. I have been keeping track of my weight before and after runs, and I'll typically lose ~2% of my body weight during a run, but easily re-hydrate during the day (as evidenced by my weight the next morning).
On those LRs with water I've noticed that I'm still fine going without water for most of the run, but if I take a drink (perhaps absentmindedly, not really being thirsty) at any point during the run I'll end up wanting to take more drinks quite frequently - much more frequently than there should be a biological need for. Anyone else noticed this, or am I just being an oddball?
Keen: I haven't noticed that. I tend to plan my runs around public water stops, so they are available in the second half of my run on days I think they might be necessary (today was a good example). What I tend to notice is once I take a drink, I am more aware of how dehydrated I am, and then I want to drink more and more. But in that case, there's an actual need for it.
Mother of Cats
Ugh - my post got eaten. Anyhoo:
OMR - good news on the knee. Progress is progress.
CK - I almost always run with a water bottle. On my team, my coach gets very upset if you show up for a team run without one - you get sentenced to run with a one of those big store-bought bottles. As for the only getting thirsty once you drink - I don't find that all that surprising - seems similar to not getting hungry until you start to eat.
Ran a road mile on Wednesday - race report is here. I had gone back and forth on whether to run another road mile on Saturday night and then decided not to due to scheduling difficulties. And then I found out that one was cancelled anyway.
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RIP Milkman
On my team, my coach gets very upset if you show up for a team run without one - you get sentenced to run with a one of those big store-bought bottles.
What? What kind of nonsense is that? It's 160 TDP here and I can run 10 miles without water. Unless you're doing long runs with your team, that policy makes no sense.
5K: 16:37 (11/20) | 10K: 34:49 (10/19) | HM: 1:14:57 (5/22) | FM: 2:36:31 (12/19)
So...our team runs on the weekends are called long runs, but people do show up sometimes to run shorter - 10 or less. How strident he is depends on the distance and the weather, but 10 miles in TDP 160 would be a water bottle mandate.
I will gently note that, IMHO, just because you can run without water doesn't mean you should. Staying hydrated keeps everything more pliable, which should reduce injury risk (no - I don't have a study to point to)
Right, I'm not saying you SHOULD go without water, but what I'm saying is that he's crazy mandating that people have water. We're all adults. If I don't want to have water, I'm not going to and "punishing" me for it is childish.
Seems like he treats you guys like middle schoolers when it comes to this. Obviously he's not my coach so it's not a big deal, I just found that very bizzare for out of school runners. I could also see it for brand new runners who don't know better. But to mandate others is so odd.
Anyway, ranting over, back to lurking.
Kicking off the new week by dropping off my report from last week:
53 miles, 17 "miles" of pool-running, and 1000 yards of swimmingM: Yoga and 8 "miles" of pool-runningT: 8 miles very easy (9:12), drills/strides, light upper body weights/core.W: 2 miles very easy in the morning (9:15) and DIY yoga; in the evening, 4 mile warm-up, mile race in 5:48, 1 mile cool-down.Th: 9 "miles" pool-runningF: 4 miles very easy (8:57), yoga, and 7 miles very easy (8:44), followed by drills/strides.Sa: 12 miles, including 8 long hill repeats (~2:00 up, ~1:30 jog, ~30 second stride, ~60 second jog) with 30 second water break after every 2 repeats; followed with leg strengthwork and 1000 yards recovery swimming.Su: 11 miles very easy (9:15), plus drills and four hill sprints, then upper body weights/core. Followed with 3 miles very easy (8:56).
Brew - any recommendations for flying out of Reno? I usually just park at the airport. Flight is a red eye so staying a night somewhere isn’t really an option. Might have joined the waiting list for a 100k, but I’m in the triple digits, so that doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen.
Just saw this. It’s been a while but I have been told some casinos offer a free shuttle. I’m not sure if they require you to be a guest. If you don’t mind a walk you could park around Costco depending how much stuff you have. Depending on the travel dates etc. I could maybe help drop off or pick up, or you could park here and Uber.