2020 Boston Marathon Thread (Read 408 times)

IK,R? If only we’d actually implemented those death panels, we wouldn’t have to worry about these old and sick people. I just wanna run, baby.

Too bad they're shutting down all these races. The average age of death from Covid-19 in the state of Massachusetts is 82 years old. 98% of deaths have underlying health conditions.  

Updated Massachusetts Covid-19 data:

https://www.mass.gov/doc/covid-19-dashboard-may-28-2020/download

Interesting data which matches up with most all over the world.  Average age of death = 82 (higher than average age of death overall).  Then you get people saying "you want old people to die" when you point out facts.  No, clearly no-one wants that, let's protect the vulnerable and not cause more pain via poverty than necessary.

Incidentally, NZ had death #22 yesterday, a 96 year old who was diagnosed with Covid in April and had recovered.  As Covid was recorded as the secondary reason for death, it is included in the Covid stats "to keep it consistent with previously recorded deaths".  So it's possible that not a single one of the 80 and 90 year old dementia patients who died had Covid recorded as the primary cause.

 

Interesting data which matches up with most all over the world.  Average age of death = 82 (higher than average age of death overall).  Then you get people saying "you want old people to die" when you point out facts.  No, clearly no-one wants that, let's protect the vulnerable and not cause more pain via poverty than necessary.

 

Incidentally, NZ had death #22 yesterday, a 96 year old who was diagnosed with Covid in April and had recovered.  As Covid was recorded as the secondary reason for death, it is included in the Covid stats "to keep it consistent with previously recorded deaths".  So it's possible that not a single one of the 80 and 90 year old dementia patients who died had Covid recorded as the primary cause.

You do realize that even though the ones who will die are not the ones running the marathon.  It is the marathon runners who come in contact with those vulnerable ones and give them the virus that they caught at the marathon.  Stopping the spread of the virus through the community is the point, not that the young healthy runners will only get mild symptoms and survive so let them run.

 

Interesting data which matches up with most all over the world.  Average age of death = 82 (higher than average age of death overall).  Then you get people saying "you want old people to die" when you point out facts.  No, clearly no-one wants that, let's protect the vulnerable and not cause more pain via poverty than necessary.

 

So there's this nursing home with 30 dementia patients and 80 employees somewhere near Boston. They've  kept COVD at bay, or maybe dealt with 2 waves of it passing through the residents and staff. One of the staff, works at a water stop -- screaming, cheering, totally swept up in the day.  At some point, a runner comes past who is infected and asymptomatic. Or maybe this runner has a beer or two and chats with the dementia care worker while they are picking up dinner at Murphy's Irish, "entertaining" them with tails of training and qualifying.

However it happens...the necessary viral load is delivered.

Tuesday afternoon at 3PM the worker goes in for the start of their shift. Asymptomatic. Viral load now moves into the dementia care population.

So yeah, 82 year old Mothers and Fathers, Granparents, war heros...they're not at risk when you're running the Boston Marathon.

It's all in the data. This exact scenario is in the data.

That same scenario could happen any year with the flu.  In Massachusetts there are 600 deaths per 100,000 for 85+ year olds every year.  I hope the workers are careful every year, because the flu could also wipe out those residents.

We have pharmacological treatments and vaccines to mitigate flu. The only existing COVID prevention is non-pharmacological...distancing.

You've done a fantastic and impressive thing in NZ in dealing with COVID. You demonstrated the value of an effective government and committed, well-informed citizenry pulling together to achieve a well-articulated objective.  That is not the case here.

That same scenario could happen any year with the flu.  In Massachusetts there are 600 deaths per 100,000 for 85+ year olds every year.  I hope the workers are careful every year, because the flu could also wipe out those residents.

Yeah, I don't know man. 100,000 deaths in the USA in 3 months vs . . .

those are just made up numbers to make Trump look bad

2018/2019 flu season in U.S. = 34,200 deaths

2020 COVID-19 in  3 1/2 months = 100,000+ deaths

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According to an estimate by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), there were approximately 45 million cases of the flu in the United States during the 2017-2018 influenza season, resulting in an estimated 810,000 flu-associated hospitalizations and an estimated 61,000 flu-associated deaths.

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Btw, when you talk about flu and a calendar year, you could easily scrap off at least May - September period when it is almost non-existent - so, it's not 12 months. But thing still stays - we are OK with 61 thousands deaths from flu, and that is after all the vaccination "efforts".

Btw, anybody was thinking about what vaccination actually does to our immune system? Can the vaccination actually tell our immune system to relax and not to be afraid of anything, not fight anything - like not fight covid-19? Just a thought...