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Assuming Kipchoge breaks the 2 hour mark tomorrow in Austria, I wonder how fast his race times would be in shorter races like 5k, 10k, and half since he would already be running at a 4:34 per mile pace for 26 miles? When I put in a marathon time of 1:59:55 into the Jack Daniels equivalent times calculator, it spits out times which would certainly be WR's.
I know this calculator is for people like us who are not pro's and are not specialists at a certain distance but he would only have to run a bit faster than 4:34 for much shorter miles. I'm also not talking about Bolt's 100m record but shorter long-distance races
5000m - WR=12:37 and calculator=12:29
10000m - WR=26:17 and calculator=12:01
Half Mar - WR=58:01 and calculator=57:10
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5k - 20:39 / 10k - 43:48 / Half - 1:34:47 / Full - 3:38:10
I have no idea but 4:04 pace for 5000m is a lot more than a bit faster than 4:34.
He's got a 12:46.53 PR so it's certainly not out of the question that if he had dedicated himself to breaking a WR at that distance he could have done it. He likely missed his window though. 34 isn't that old for a top tier marathoner but it's pretty ancient for a 5000m runner.
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He likely missed his window though. 34 isn't that old for a top tier marathoner but it's pretty ancient for a 5000m runner.
You may be right about that. Kenenisa Bekele set his WR times for 5000 and 10000m in 2004-2005 when he was 22-23 years old. His times for the 5k were a few seconds slower each year following thru 2012, even though he just clocked the 2nd fastest marathon time ever in 2019. Half marathon record may be attainable but why would the marathon king dedicate training for the half in the final stages of his career?
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Half marathon record may be attainable but why would the marathon king dedicate training for the half in the final stages of his career?
Because World Record. He has the current marathon record. Why break 2? Why not go win races comfortably and get big paychecks until you retire and become an announcer or coach or whatever it is professional athletes do after they stop being a professional athlete? Because World Record.
Many of us aren't sure what the hell point you are trying to make and no matter how we guess, it always seems to be something else. Which usually means a person is doing it on purpose.
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5k18:xx | Marathon 2:55:22
He could probably be a contender for records in:
30k
20M
40k
25M
30M
50k
because records ARE kept for such things.
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Are we there, yet?
He could probably be a contender for records in: 30k 20M 40k 25M 30M 50k because records ARE kept for such things.
Neither USATF nor IAAF keep records for 20M, 40K, and 30M anymore. He could probably destroy the 50K record if there were any monetary incentive since it's only 2:43:38. Technically it's a world best, not a world record.
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good to know!
I bet he could get a world best for 40k wearing a superman costume, too. Maybe not a world best for wearing a Big Ben costume, that's hard.
I don't know what he did on the track when younger??
But I assume he was trying to run his fastest 5,000m, and 10,000m back then...
maybe going after the HM or 50k would be something to do for him...or one of the big time ultras...
300m- 37 sec.
I don't know what he did on the track when younger?? But I assume he was trying to run his fastest 5,000m, and 10,000m back then... maybe going after the HM or 50k would be something to do for him...or one of the big time ultras...
personal bests here
Marathons is where the money is.
Why would he venture to compromise his money making machine, to take down the half record for example, something that doesnt pay? He is 34 now, a few more years at the top; keep cashing in. I dont think his sponsors will ever try to push him to do any other distances.
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He could probably destroy the 50K record if there were any monetary incentive since it's only 2:43:38. Technically it's a world best, not a world record.
He'd have to run 9 minute miles for 5 miles after his marathon.
not bad for mile 25
He could have done that today.
Marathons is where the money is. Why would he venture to compromise his money making machine, to take down the half record for example, something that doesnt pay? He is 34 now, a few more years at the top; keep cashing in. I dont think his sponsors will ever try to push him to do any other distances.
His exhibition runs have earned him more money than any world major marathon, hands down. He is the equivalent to a billionaire in the Kenyan economy. He could earn a living for a long time helping Nike sell shoes. I want a pair of Nike Kipchoge now. He could also endorse a ton of other products. Olympians fare well finding ways to make money long after their careers are over.
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PR's - 5K - 17:57 (2017) | 10K - 38:06 (2016) | 13.1 1:23:55 (2019) | 26.2 2:58:46 (2017)
2020 Goals - Sub-2:55 Marathon Up Next: TBD, Boston on 9/14?
I have no idea but 4:04 pace for 5000m is a lot more than a bit faster than 4:34. He's got a 12:46.53 PR so it's certainly not out of the question that if he had dedicated himself to breaking a WR at that distance he could have done it. He likely missed his window though. 34 isn't that old for a top tier marathoner but it's pretty ancient for a 5000m runner.
Yep. Not even a remote chance at 10,000 or below for sure. Not taking away from anything he's done, but also not taking away from what it would take to run a WR at 5 or 10 thousand.
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Though in 10 head to head races over 5,000m between Kipchoge and Bekele, Bekele won 8 times.