Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2020 (Read 606 times)

JMac11


Taper Czar

    Keen - I figured you see that kind of stuff all the time! Here in NYC, there are now at least three owls in and around the park: two barred owls and a great horned owl. They're all the rage in this pandemic; I've become a bit of a birder myself as there's not much else to do!

     

    DW - this was probably pages back, but why are you buying a treadmill in the first place? DC doesn't seem like the kind of place where you need one

     

    Weather - Although I like those temps I said, my favorite weather for runs really depends on the purpose of it, somewhat akin to what DW was saying. I do like it a bit warmer if I'm just going for a 60 minute easy run.

     

    Easy runs: 70s and dry

    Long runs: 60s and dry

    5K/10K races: 50s

    Half/Full: 40s

    5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:15:28 (3/20)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

     

    Next Race: Whatever COVID-19 will allow me to run 

    darkwave


    Mother of Cats

       

       

      DW - this was probably pages back, but why are you buying a treadmill in the first place? DC doesn't seem like the kind of place where you need one

       

       

       

      A few reasons:

       

      1) I run by myself in the early morning and sometimes I feel vulnerable doing so.  Especially when there are reports of someone out there assaulting women, and the person has not been caught yet.  It would be nice to have the option to run inside during those situations.

       

      2) I worry that at some point we will get an outdoor mask mandate that does not exclude exercise.  I cannot run outside with a mask due to my asthma, not even at easy pace.  Having a treadmill will allow me to run without breaking the law.

       

      3) Things do get iced over for a day or two sometimes here - we don't get cleared as quickly as Central Park Smile.  My back-up used to be running on a road underneath a freeway in Georgetown, however they recently added several speed bumps to that road that make it less useful for speedwork.

       

      4) when my ulcerative colitis is flaring, it's awfully nice to go for a run knowing that a bathroom is very close. (TMI, but oh well).  It sucks having to plan out routes around bathroom options.

      Everyone's gotta running blog; I'm the only one with a POOL-RUNNING blog.

       

      And...if you want a running Instagram where all the pictures are of cats, I've got you covered.

      JMac11


      Taper Czar

        All good reasons, especially number 4, which should have been number 2.

        5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:15:28 (3/20)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

         

        Next Race: Whatever COVID-19 will allow me to run 

        darkwave


        Mother of Cats

          All good reasons, especially number 4, which should have been number 2.

           

          You win.

          Everyone's gotta running blog; I'm the only one with a POOL-RUNNING blog.

           

          And...if you want a running Instagram where all the pictures are of cats, I've got you covered.

          SteveChCh


          Hot Weather Complainer

            darkwave - all good reasons especially 4, which I will from now on refer to as 2.  I think every runner has had uncomfortable experiences around number 2, and for you to have a condition making this far more frequent is a very good reason to get a treadmill.  That calculation of how far to get to a bathroom, to adjusting to looking for anywhere at least semi-private to....

             

            Also, terrible to be concerned about safety and the possibility of compulsory outdoor mask use.

             

            JMac - Agree completely on ideal weather conditions being different depending on the type of run.  2C in calm conditions is my sweet spot for racing.  20C is nice for recovery and bearable for evening workouts of 60-70 minutes.  For a long run workout on a weekend morning 9am or later with the sun high, I'd prefer 10C.  For these reasons I'm not too worried (yet) about marathon training throughout summer - most of my pacing will be slow or MP which I can manage in the heat (to a point obviously).

             

            CK - Nice week, looks like you'll be cranking out the mileage records around here again soon.

             

            me - Still very sore and not enjoying even recovery pace but I know that will be helping me.  It's probably equal to my first ever race and just slightly worse than Queenstown 3 years ago - I figured that was because I ran with a cold which turned into a throat infection after the race but must have also been due to the Queenstown course, which was minus the brutal hill in 2017.

            PB:  Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

            Recent Races:    Queenstown Half-Marathon (trail) November 21, 2020 1:35.11 Cherry Blossom Half-Marathon, September 13, 2020 1:33:38 Half-Marathon Time Trial May 31, 2020 1:31.51  Auckland Waterfront Half-Marathon 2019 1:30.49 

            Plan for 2021:  Christchurch Half-Marathon April 11 (tempo/training run), Wellington Marathon June 27,  Queenstown Half-Marathon November 20

            Marky_Mark_17


              darkwave - all good reasons especially 4, which I will from now on refer to as 2.  I think every runner has had uncomfortable experiences around number 2, and for you to have a condition making this far more frequent is a very good reason to get a treadmill.  That calculation of how far to get to a bathroom, to adjusting to looking for anywhere at least semi-private to....

               

               

              Heh, this was me a couple days ago.  I tried an amino acid supplement (NAC) which, amongst other things, is supposed to help mitigate some of the adverse effects of antibiotics - albeit I was probably a bit late on it.  One of the side effects can be a slightly upset stomach and... yep.

               

              Somehow I managed to develop some more nasal congestion at the start of the week (I blame the 3 year old importing it from daycare), but it seems to be clearing up just in time.  Yet another reason just to run Saturday on feel.

              5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) 

              HM: 1:10:46 (Nov-19) | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

              Last race: Mt. Maunganui Half Marathon, 28 Nov, 1:20:08

              Up next: Southern Lakes Half Marathon, 1 May, and hopefully a few others before then

              "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

              JamesD


              JamesD

                 

                 

                Easy runs: 70s and dry

                Long runs: 60s and dry

                5K/10K races: 50s

                Half/Full: 40s

                 

                Add about 5 degrees F to each category for me, except that I like 5K/10K races (and speedwork) 10-20 degrees warmer.  I get loose and ready to run fast much easier when it's warm.

                Post-1987 PRs:  Half 1:30:14 (2019); 10K 39:35 (2019); 5K 19:12 (2017); Mile 5:37.3 (April '20)

                2021 Goals:  Stay healthy, 40+ mpw, Half<1:30; PR or 80% age-grade at some distance

                  Mark weather looking good at this stage light southwest winds which will help keep things cool temps 11c to 22c so hopefully you are done before it gets to the high. Today is muggy as the sun sucks out the rain we have had.

                  Southwest is fairly sheltered along Marine Parade and Oceanbeach rd. Only an issue at Pilot Bay where you are fully exposed. I will catch you at the start or prizegiving.

                  50+ PBs -  

                  5k 18.25 Tauranga Parkrun  Sept 20      81.36 % age grade

                  10k 38.55 oct 19 strava run

                  " If you don't use it you lose it but if you use it, it wears out.

                  Somewhere in between is about right "      

                   

                  Marky_Mark_17


                    Sounds good Piwi.  We are staying in Papamoa so nice and handy to you for a recovery run on Sunday too.

                    5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) 

                    HM: 1:10:46 (Nov-19) | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                    Last race: Mt. Maunganui Half Marathon, 28 Nov, 1:20:08

                    Up next: Southern Lakes Half Marathon, 1 May, and hopefully a few others before then

                    "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                    JMac11


                    Taper Czar

                      James - I agree warm speed work is good, hard to do in the winter, but 80+ and humid is rough no matter what you're doing.

                       

                      Question for the group - I have two weather choices for my TT. I can run one day with stronger winds (10-15 mph), but it'll be a crosswind. The alternative is a lighter win (around 5 mph), but it will be a headwind the second half of the race. I am leaning towards the crosswind choice because it's not THAT windy, but curious what you would do.

                      5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:15:28 (3/20)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                       

                      Next Race: Whatever COVID-19 will allow me to run 

                      Marky_Mark_17


                        Could you flip the course around so it was a tailwind for the second half?

                         

                        If not, I would take the crosswind option.

                        5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) 

                        HM: 1:10:46 (Nov-19) | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                        Last race: Mt. Maunganui Half Marathon, 28 Nov, 1:20:08

                        Up next: Southern Lakes Half Marathon, 1 May, and hopefully a few others before then

                        "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                          5 mph is very light so I would go with that option. 

                          50+ PBs -  

                          5k 18.25 Tauranga Parkrun  Sept 20      81.36 % age grade

                          10k 38.55 oct 19 strava run

                          " If you don't use it you lose it but if you use it, it wears out.

                          Somewhere in between is about right "      

                           

                          SteveChCh


                          Hot Weather Complainer

                            Does 5mph even count as wind?  I'd definitely go with that.

                             

                            Good luck mark and piwi.  Hope you get an enjoyable day and nice beer afterwards.  I've got TBD for both your goals, have you decided on any target?  Mostly asking piwi because I think mark would be better off relaxing and enjoying it rather than gunning for a target.

                            PB:  Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

                            Recent Races:    Queenstown Half-Marathon (trail) November 21, 2020 1:35.11 Cherry Blossom Half-Marathon, September 13, 2020 1:33:38 Half-Marathon Time Trial May 31, 2020 1:31.51  Auckland Waterfront Half-Marathon 2019 1:30.49 

                            Plan for 2021:  Christchurch Half-Marathon April 11 (tempo/training run), Wellington Marathon June 27,  Queenstown Half-Marathon November 20

                              Steve im kinda bit ho hum about the 10k and haven't been getting nervous or excited. Round the Mount always kills a good time so im just going to see how it goes. Temperature will play a role. This morning it was 17c at 5.30am and 20c by 10am. Tomorrow will be similar i think.

                              50+ PBs -  

                              5k 18.25 Tauranga Parkrun  Sept 20      81.36 % age grade

                              10k 38.55 oct 19 strava run

                              " If you don't use it you lose it but if you use it, it wears out.

                              Somewhere in between is about right "      

                               

                              SteveChCh


                              Hot Weather Complainer

                                Yep, I can't imagine anyone but an experienced trail runner keeping their pace around that Mount track.  So start time is 8:15am?  Not ideal at this time of the year but you should be well finished by 9am so hopefully not too scorching.

                                PB:  Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

                                Recent Races:    Queenstown Half-Marathon (trail) November 21, 2020 1:35.11 Cherry Blossom Half-Marathon, September 13, 2020 1:33:38 Half-Marathon Time Trial May 31, 2020 1:31.51  Auckland Waterfront Half-Marathon 2019 1:30.49 

                                Plan for 2021:  Christchurch Half-Marathon April 11 (tempo/training run), Wellington Marathon June 27,  Queenstown Half-Marathon November 20