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Back-to-back long runs: Preferred sequence? (Read 85 times)

Stevepf


    Back-to-back long runs for Ultra training: What is the preferred sequence – longer one followed by shorter, or vice-versa? In looking at various training plans put out by reputable authors, most have long followed by short. Maybe its not a settled issue though, because I also found some plans, also from reputable sources, with short followed by long. Opinions? Thanks!

    wcrunner2


    I'm out of ideas

      I've seen a few plans that don't bother with back-to-back long runs.  One long run a week is presumably enough.

       

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      dpschumacher


        My guess is longer then shorter, unless you are pushing a pace goal.  Your legs will be beat up going into the second day and pushing on already tired legs for a longer distance seems like it can really compound damage.  So doing a 20 miler then a 17 miler makes a lot more sense to me than 17 miles then pushing further to 20.  It would make sense if you are trying to get the feeling of running when really tired, but that type of running should be limited for injury prevention.

         

        -My 2 cents from a guy who has been injured on the day after a workout pushing hard on day 2.

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        berylrunner


        Rick

          Make them equal distance then everyone is happy.

           

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          an amazing likeness

            There are well-used marathon training plans which deliberately have the shorter long-ish on Saturday at harder effort, so the Sunday long starts on fatigued legs. Objective is to train mentally on the tough late miles, as well as physical.

             

            ...I've no insights as to if that translates to ultra training...

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            paul2432


              I think it matters little enough that it’s best to do whatever suits your schedule and personal preferences.

               

              I like longer on Saturday.  Once or twice a training cycle I might do 10 Friday, 25-30 Saturday, 15 Sunday.

               

              One benefit of Saturday as the longer run is that if something comes up on Sunday you’ve at least got one long run in.

              Cyberic


                Is there a right and a wrong answer? I don't think so.

                 

                I would say the most important question is can your body withstand 37 miles in 2 days?

                 

                If the answer is yes, then I would personally do what I feel makes more sense given the pros and cons of each, and probably try them both and see which way I like it best.

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