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Does Triathlon discrminate against runners? (Read 251 times)

    MiTi (Michigan Titanium) Triathlon has $445 for a full Ironman distance race.

    That's not too bad for a 140.6.

    Cheaper than the $750 for the Ironman branded races of same distance, but likely less swag and support than IM brand.

     

    Ironman branding has value, though.  Unbelievable experience.  For the full IM, they treat you like you're a professional athlete.  I don't know that I ever expected that level of professionalism and people rallying me to the finish line every inch of the course.  It was truly an amazing experience, and I have no regrets putting money toward that race.  It brings shivers down my spine today as I recall the event, and the support within the event.

     

    To others point, though... Yes, it is expensive sport.  Yes, it's more expensive than running races.  Yes, maybe it's too expensive, and Yes, maybe people spend too much on triathlon. I fully understand those who critique those who are willing to blow money on triathlon.


    My only defense is that it's the most fun I've ever had doing any type of racing.  I wish I had more money, and I wish I started doing this when I was 15 years old.  etc.  etc.

    2018 Goals:

    #1: Do what I can do (250+ training days, 300+ aerobic hours).

    #2: Race shape - BUILD aerobic base

    #3: Race (Cincinnati MiniMarathon - 3/18, Grand Rapids 70.3 Tri - 6/10, Ironman Florida - 11/2)

     


    Still kicking

      Triathlon is expensive as hell if you need the latest stuff right now. It's not bad if you shop wisely. My bike was new-old-stock at substantial savings. My $250 MSRP Air Attack helmet was $45 on a new-old-stock sell out. My tri shorts were $25 in a Fall sell-out. My tri top was also $24 on a Fall sell-out. My wetsuit was $99 on a new-old-stock sell-out. My aerobars were $34 on a Nashbar NOS sell-out. I traded my old Mt. bike for a set of race wheels. I ride in cages/straps in my running shoes. etc. etc.

       

      As for discriminating against runners, I don't know. I'm a better swimmer and runner than I am cyclist. I've won and placed in smaller local tris, and have never ever gotten off the bike in the lead. I've only done one IM so far, but I do know for sure that you can't fake the swim or run, or you're screwed, but you can fake the bike and still finish respectably.

      I'm also on Athlinks and Strava

      kkittenkat


      English Villian

        cheaper brands are expensive also.  I don't know anywhere that dropping $1000 to $1500 on anything short of a house or a car is "cheap"

         

        There are cheaper ones here in the UK.

        I guess a big part of the problem is that insurance to hold triathlons is so much more expensive than running events, has to be because of the bike leg element.

        kkittenkat


        English Villian

          MiTi (Michigan Titanium) Triathlon has $445 for a full Ironman distance race.

          That's not too bad for a 140.6.

          Cheaper than the $750 for the Ironman branded races of same distance, but likely less swag and support than IM brand.

           

          Ironman branding has value, though.  Unbelievable experience.  For the full IM, they treat you like you're a professional athlete.  I don't know that I ever expected that level of professionalism and people rallying me to the finish line every inch of the course.  It was truly an amazing experience, and I have no regrets putting money toward that race.  It brings shivers down my spine today as I recall the event, and the support within the event.

           

          To others point, though... Yes, it is expensive sport.  Yes, it's more expensive than running races.  Yes, maybe it's too expensive, and Yes, maybe people spend too much on triathlon. I fully understand those who critique those who are willing to blow money on triathlon.


          My only defense is that it's the most fun I've ever had doing any type of racing.  I wish I had more money, and I wish I started doing this when I was 15 years old.  etc.  etc.

          I agree with you regarding the branding. My first was Ironman Nice, I just (rightly or wrongly), wanted to say I was an Ironman.

            My only defense is that it's the most fun I've ever had doing any type of racing.  I wish I had more money, and I wish I started doing this when I was 15 years old.  etc.  etc.

             

            I have to agree.  I am so much better at running than I am at swimming and biking (which is sad because I am not a good runner) but I keep coming back to triathlon because it is fun.  It really is a blast that makes all the frustrations go away

            pedaling fool


              Actually, it's been my observation, based on many of the triathlons I've watched, that triathlons discriminate against the non-runners. I've seen so many runners come from behind after the bike and win.

               

              Not saying that all you need is to be a good runner, but it helps big time, as long as you don't totally suck at the other events, especially cycling.

              jingchunyu


                Actually, it's been my observation, based on many of the triathlons I've watched, that triathlons discriminate against the non-runners. I've seen so many runners come from behind after the bike and win.

                 

                 

                What you see in the running can be very  misleading.   Since people start out in difference waves, so swimmers and cyclists running   eventually took over in the running leg are those who started several waves behind and they already passed runners in swimming

                and biking,


                borderline/narcissist

                   Since people start out in difference waves, 

                   

                  Back in 2012...I had the awesome experience of a mass start in lake placid. That pretty much served as an equalizer for the whole Damn race, haha. No discrimination there, good or bad swimmer, you're being tested. Not sure if it is even done that way anywhere for big races anymore....anyway, So grateful I got to swim that. Nothing brings you closer to life than the fear of death...haha!

                   

                  Carry on.

                  In order to see the truth, sometimes you have to loose an eye.

                  http://www.runningahead.com/groups/Utri/

                   

                   

                   

                   

                   

                   

                   

                   

                    Yes, I had the pleasure of doing my ironman's as mass start (without waves)...

                    There isn't anything quite like the mass swim start of Ironman.

                     

                    They got rid of mass start due to some study related to deaths in triathlon.  Unlike marathon, the deaths occurred during the first portion of the swim due to tight wetsuits, kicking, anxiety, fitness level, lack of warm up, etc.  So, they migrated to wave starts back in 2015, I think.

                     

                    The best way I could describe the 'problem' with mass swim starts was that the amount of surface area needed to tread water is a whole lot less than the amount of surface area to swim.  To tread water, I need about 3 foot wide by 3 foot.  To swim, I need about 18" wide by 8'.  The problem is that during the "national anthem" portion of the Ironman, most people were lining up forgetting that you need 8 feet instead of the 3'.  So, my arms push down the feet of the person in front of me, and my feet were being pushed down by the arms of the person behind me... Took "30" minutes for us to play nice together in the sandbox and get our space.

                     

                    And yes, about 5 minutes into the race you begin to ask yourself why you signed up for this event and whether it's worth it and whether you'll live to enjoy it the next day.

                     

                    Back in 2012...I had the awesome experience of a mass start in lake placid. That pretty much served as an equalizer for the whole Damn race, haha. No discrimination there, good or bad swimmer, you're being tested. Not sure if it is even done that way anywhere for big races anymore....anyway, So grateful I got to swim that. Nothing brings you closer to life than the fear of death...haha!

                     

                    Carry on.

                    2018 Goals:

                    #1: Do what I can do (250+ training days, 300+ aerobic hours).

                    #2: Race shape - BUILD aerobic base

                    #3: Race (Cincinnati MiniMarathon - 3/18, Grand Rapids 70.3 Tri - 6/10, Ironman Florida - 11/2)

                     

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