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Thorlos Experia. Last for ages, super comfortable. All Thorlos are good but the Experia are a bit thinner and I prefer the feel of them.
Thorlos Experia.
Last for ages, super comfortable.
All Thorlos are good but the Experia are a bit thinner and I prefer the feel of them.
https://thorlos.com/collections/mens-socks/products/xccu00-cl-unisex-fitness-light-cushion-low-cut-xccu?variant=40368726081581
Is this the right one? Looks like it's on sale so I will buy a bunch.
5K: 16:37 (11/20) | 10K: 34:49 (10/19) | HM: 1:14:57 (5/22) | FM: 2:36:31 (12/19)
https://thorlos.com/collections/mens-socks/products/xccu00-cl-unisex-fitness-light-cushion-low-cut-xccu?variant=40368726081581 Is this the right one? Looks like it's on sale so I will buy a bunch.
Pretty bold to buy “a bunch” of something you’ve never tried before!
Dave
I'm picky with a lot of stuff. Socks I am not. With two people recommending, and with it only on sale one day for veterans day, rather take the chance!
Mother of Cats
If they don't work out as socks, they can always be converted into disposable mittens.
Everyone's gotta running blog; I'm the only one with a POOL-RUNNING blog.
And...if you want a running Instagram where all the pictures are of cats, I've got you covered.
Yup those are the ones I go for. Hope they work out for you. Pretty decent sale price tbh. They often aren't the cheapest but they do last for ages.
3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)
10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)
* Net downhill course
Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48
Up next: Runway5, 4 May
"CONSISTENCY IS KING"
Thanks! Just ordered.
It's Tuesday every day
>Thanks! Just ordered.
Does anybody remember the late-80s/early 90s Thorlos ad, "I run in Thorlos, and sometimes I even wear shoes"? It featured this fairly high-level runner (want to say his name was Jeff Davis, but I'm not sure), who'd somehow ended up shoeless mid-race and finished the race wearing only his socks. (Plus, of course, running shorts etc.)
If I can ever find it, I'll post a link.
Meanwhile, the week in review:
6-12 Nov 2022: 64.3 mi in 10:19:25 -> 9:38 min/mi.
Summary: Week started off well, but then got derailed by insomnia again beginning Tuesday night despite my best efforts. Calling the doctor Monday. This is screwing with my life too much.
Sun 6 Nov: 14 mi in 2:09:33 -> 9:15 min/mi. Probably the best run of the week.
Mon 7 Nov: 8.2 mi, 1:09:06 -> 9:40 min/mi
Tue 8 Nov: 10;1 mi, 1:33:50 ->9:18 min/mi
Wed 9 Nov: 9.6 mi including 5*(3' hard/1-3'min jog), 1:35:25 -> 9:59 min/mi
Thu 10 Nov: 7.6 mi on trail in 1:18:33 -> 10:18 min/mi
Fri 11 Nov: 7 mi, 1:07:57 -> 9:43 min/mi
Sat 12 Nov: 7.9 mi, 1:15:00 -> 9:32 min/mi
Anyway: onward! At least I got the miles done. Low-key 5k this Saturday (11/19). Happy running!
ch17 - never saw the ad but I have heard stories about people running entire marathons in Thorlos. All the best sorting that insomnia... sounds rough.
Me - decent week of training with Sunday being my first trip up to the forest in a while. Figured it was good practice for the trail half I've got coming up in 4 weeks. Anyways I took a wrong turn on the western side and instead of getting the northern loop I ended up coming along Hansen Rd which took me up and along a clearfelled ridge. This was not a bad thing as most of the forest roads are gravel and this was full on trail (rutted, muddy, strewn with bits of tree) with a 10% grade hill to start. The trail half I'm doing has two hills with a 10% grade and they're both around 2km long (basically opposite sides of the same hill), so it actually made me realise that the best strategy may very well be to just walk the hills, or at least jog them with walk breaks (I'm interested to hear what Krash thinks on this front?). Anyways I should be able to get a couple more forest runs in before the race next month. It was nice being out there actually... harder running but great to be out in nature and I can tell from how my legs feel that it's worked a bunch of muscles I wouldn't normally use on the roads!
Hot Weather Complainer
Christine - Sorry to hear the insomnia continues to be a problem. I've experienced it too and it really screws everything up, physically and mentally. Hope you get somewhere with the doctor.
Mark - Nice week and great forest trail run. That is pretty hardcore to go to straight from the road and track.
me - Good moderate week as I try and get some speed in my legs for Queenstown, even with my conservative goal of 1:34.xx. The quicker speeds felt really comfortable, although I think I need to add at least 5 secs per km to feel the same on the trails. I'm glad this isn't a goal race with a pretty bad forecast - rain on race day and the few days leading into it so the trails will be under water in places, if the forecast is correct. I'll update my target pace accordingly and won't be silly about going after it if the conditions don't allow. The positive is the wind should be light. My main goal is to enjoy myself which is completely in my own hands.
5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23
2024 Races:
Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024 1:29:55
Christchurch Half-Marathon April 21, 2024
Selwyn Marathon June 2, 2024
Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024
Pain is my friend
I love all the topics coming up. What I eat/drink and put on my feet for an ultra matters a lot.
I drink water during a 100 miler almost the whole race. I drink a lot of Mt Dew too. Lol. I use salt pill religiously. I start by taking 1 an hour at the start of race. As it warms up I go to 2 an hour. Really hot races I will take 3-4 pills an hour. When the sun goes down I still take salt pills.
The right socks are important. I like smart wool and wright socks. I have tried Injinji socks. They are ok. When it’s cold my toes freeze and they aren’t that easy to put on at times.
Mark- I love a good trail half marathon. During training I try to run every hill I can. Hill repeats are great training. When climbing shorten your stride/step. If the hill is as long as you say, walking is the best option. Work on your power hike. Quick steps. You got this.
ATY 24 141.445 2019 1st
Bear 100 22:08 2021
Jackpot 100 Feb 14:59 - 5th
St George marathon Oct 2:58
ATY 24 130.969 2022 2nd
Pulse endurance 12 hour 76.22 1ST CR
July Backyard ultra 22 yards Win
Sept Bear 100 24:08
Intl. correspondent
Ch- I've just realised your avatar is a picture of a cat. +1000 points to you!Also, I hope you and the doc can figure out the insomnia thing. I suffer from poor quality of sleeping, which is not the same, and 5-HTP helps when it gets worse, though I really only use it in times of crisis.I've had that since I was a child though and it messes up my recovery and weakens my immune system.
Mark - There's a calming effect of walking or running in the woods, at least to me. I grew up on a farm so when I'm in a silent forest with a water stream flowing somewhere I'm in paradise.
Me - So I'm reading "The athlete's gut" and it's a quite interesting read. Apparently Mick Jagger can hold quite a lot of water in his mouth.But also, he does not recommend drinking pickle juice (see that Steve?) cause pickle juice is a hypertonic drink and it causes water to drop from the blood stream into your guts, effectively dehydrating you.
Also, me and my wife met the legend Neil aka LongBoat the resident historian and his wife, at an Italian restaurant for lunch yesterday.
They are the nicest people!
When the waiter asked him if he wanted Italian or Portuguese wine he made the right choice👏🇮🇹
And here's my weekly:
PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:53 2023 - 10K 37:55 2023 - HM 1:21:59 2021
Up next: some 800m race (or time trials) / Also place in the top 20% in a trail race
Tool to generate Strava weekly
CH17 - good luck with the insomnia. I take it next weekend's 5K is the Cranberry Crawl?
Marky_Mark - I'm going to observe the obvious - 2Km at 10% grade is just brutal.
Steve - rough forecast but sounds like you have the right attitude.
Flavio - good consistent week for you, and great that you were able to meet LongBoat.
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My week:
56 miles running, 2 hours Lever Runner (-20 pounds), and 500 yards swimming.
M: 60 minutes Lever Run (-20 pounds) and streaming yogaT: 10 miles on the treadmill with 8x(2:00 at 8mph with 2% incline; 90 second jog; 0:30 at 9.0-9.1 mph; 60 second jog). Followed with leg strengthwork.W: upper body weights/core and 10 miles on treadmill (9:47)Th: streaming yoga and 60 minutes Lever Run (-20 pounds)F: 10.5 miles on the treadmill, including 5x5:00 at 8.1mph with 60 second jog and 6x0:30 at 9.0-9.5 mph with 90 second jog. Followed with leg strengthwork.Sa: 10 miles easy outside (9:40) and upper body weights/core.Su: 14.5 miles progressive outside, split as first 5 miles averaging 9:46, next 5 miles averaging 8:35, next 4.5 miles averaging 7:44. 1 mile cooldown after. Followed with leg strengthwork and 500 yards recovery swimming.
It took until Friday night for me to test negative for Covid, so I stayed home until then. Since I couldn't pool-run, I used my Lever Runner. It was a holiday splurge for myself last year, and while I don't use it that often, it's nice to have it as an option - it means that I can use my treadmill for regular running and cross-training.
I'm feeling mostly OK - maybe a little bit tired, but that could just be that I'm out of shape.
DW That's a solid week while recovering from "the vid". Glad you're feeling alright.
CommanderKeen Sick race.
My Week Time: Miles: Kilos: Pace/mi: Pace/kilo:
11/7: Off but did a fair amount
of leg strength work
11/8: Easy 8 on the treadmill,
7 miles on stationary bike after 1:07:15 8 12.8 8:25 5:14
11/9: Fartlek on the treadmill:
15 min easy, then 4 X 10 min
tempo/threshold w/ 2 min jogs,
intervals were on a 3% incline
from 8.8 mph to 9.3 mph 1:15:54 10 16.1 7:36 4:43
11/10: Easy 8 miles on mill, right
hip flexor was very sore 1:06:44 8 12.8 8:21 5:11
11/11: Easy 7 on the mill,
hip flexor still not great 1:00:20 7 11.2 8:38 5:23
11/12: Easy 9 on the mill,
6 on the bike after, hip feeling better 1:16:00 9 14.5 8:27 5:16
11/13: On the treadmill (again):
15 minutes easy, 50 minute
progressive tempo, 8.5 mph (13.6 kph)
progressing to 9.3 (15), incline
1.5%-2.5% but mostly 2%, the rest easy. 1:32:15 12 19.3 7:42 4:48
Total: 54 miles, 86.9 kilometers, 7:18:28
The tempo today felt much better than the 4 X 10 minute on Wednesday, not sure why.
Less than two weeks to go here, I hate this part. It drags. Sometimes I feel like 16 weeks is a pinch too long for me.
Hey all - thanks for the kind words about the insomnia. And, now about you:
Marky_Mark_17: nice forest run! I liked the part about how you took a wrong turn and just kept going.
SteveChCh: "I'm glad this isn't a goal race with a pretty bad forecast...the trails will be under water in places, if the forecast is correct" - reminded me of XC races where people duct-tape-on their shoes.(I've never done that.)
flavio1980: LoL-ing about the Mick Jagger factoid... can you imagine using that as a pickup line at a bar or as an icebreaker at a cocktail party?
mmerkle & darkwave: wow, you guys scare me with how many miles you can do on the treadmill. Nice work!
darkwave: you're right, it's the Cranberry Crawl. You going? Glad you're out of the + test box.
Flavio - yeah the peacefulness of the forest is great. Lots of birds, and the slosh of my hydration pack haha.
Krash - thanks for the tip. I'll probably go up to the forest again this weekend for some more trails as there's not a lot near home or work.
mmerkle - good to hear the tempo went better this time. 50 mins is a pretty decent effort especially if you're running it progressive.
Steve - there's something kind of reassuring when you get bad weather for a non-goal race. I mean, it's a total fallacy, but mentally I always think "phew I've got a bad weather day out of the way so now I have a better chance of good weather for my goal race" lol.