Heart rate training and Pace (Read 140 times)

 

For our Bruce Protocol treadmill test at work my HR ticks along at 205 after 10 minutes of running at an incline and I still have gas in the tank.

I don't think you found your true MaxHR.  When you get close to it, you should feel like your heart is about to explode out of your chest.  On a treadmill, you should be very close to falling off the back when you get near true MaxHR.  I'm not familiar with that protocol you referenced, but I also don't think 10 minutes is enough to get the ticker warmed up.  This may explain why you can trot along for a 10K at 90%.  It's really not 90%.  Run an all out 5K race and push as hard as you can to the finish, leaving nothing left.  That should give you a better reading of your MaxHR.

 

tchuck-   Like I just mentioned, I haven't listed every training day on here. Running, other training, activity at work that constituted a hard workout aren't all shown.   I would think running consistently since mid-2015 would be enough time to get "fit."  
It's not so much that any little bit of running or jogging makes my HR shoot up.  It's that my HR goes up (whether I run sprints or jog slow), but I can still function.

Describe your running since 2015? Consistency, weekly miles etc. Something does not add up. The fact that your HR spikes tells me you are not "aerobically fit". Or running fit. When I trained clients who were not aerobically fit, their HR spiked with light aerobic activity. Over a period of months these HRs imoroved dramatically just from consistent aerobic activity. You may look fit, lift weights etc and have general fitness, however this is not running fit. Have you run at least 20-25 miles per week for months? If not, you are probably not running fit. Just trying to get some history here.

 

I'm not familiar with the Bruce Protocol (and I am not an expert or a doctor or anyone who knows anything about health), but I was curious and did a quick search on the interwebs.  I found this document, which lists 9 stages of the complete test, each stage lasting 3 minutes, and you run to exhaustion.  So if you stopped after 10 minutes and still had gas in the tank, then you didn't finish the test...and I agree with others that you probably haven't found your maxHR.

I didn't say I stopped at 10 minutes. I said my HR was at 205 after 10 minutes. I ran to 12:45 - which is not something an unfit person could do - and I still had gas in the tank.  Also, at our testing lab you don't have to run to exhaustion, but to a predetermined point. Not my choice; their rules.  

Perhaps I'm not "running fit," even though I'm exceptionally fit.  Even last night we had an apartment fire, where we had to wake from sleep to going full effort in 10 minutes.  It could be I'm more geared for short-course running and not longer distances (not every runner is a marathoner). Fortunately the OCR sport offers something for all.

Thank you for those of you that helped clear some things up.  It's been appreciated and I'll refer back to those posts as needed. To give a full record of my training & full explanation of some of my progress would be an extensive post.  And, thanks to internet communication being clumsy, I'd still have to come back and clarify misinterpretations.

I've been following a running coach's podcasts and website.  I'm going to reach out to him.  Meanwhile, I'm going to spend time on the trail.  Thanks again.

Anaerobic is using something other than oxygen for energy, so any running beyond a sprint or interval type training is going to be "aerobic."

I would also question how you are measuring HR, 188 bpm doesn't sound right for a slow pace.