Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2018 (Read 576 times)

JMac11


    Flavio - don't let Piwi bully you into being the lazy man of the thread! Also that guy plays football??? And please, there is no way you weigh anything close to that bowling ball masquerading as a human stomach. If you look like that, we need to get you over to DietingAhead.com 

    5K: 17:51 (5/18)  |  10K: 37:09 (6/18)  |  HM: 1:20:39 (5/17)  |  FM: 2:54:02 (11/17) 

     

    Next Race: Bronx 10 Mile (9/30/18)  

    Goal Race: NYC Marathon (11/4/18)

    Cfarr


      Rune Nice ride impressive.... one day I will take up riding too.

      watsonc123


        Flavio - don't let Piwi bully you into being the lazy man of the thread! Also that guy plays football??? And please, there is no way you weigh anything close to that bowling ball masquerading as a human stomach. If you look like that, we need to get you over to DietingAhead.com 

         

        That would have been a celebration game for the Brazilian Ronaldo post retirement.  Pre knee injury he was phenomenal, post knee injury and pre fatness he was very good.  And now he is just fat.

        PRs: 5km 18:43, half 1:26:16, full 3:09:28

         

        40+ PRs: half 1:29:39

         

        2018 aims: 1:25:00

         

        Next race: 5 Bridges Half Marathon 19 Aug

        CommanderKeen


        Aspiring Hobby Jogger

          Hello, all! A guy takes a couple days away and really gets behind on the thread!


          DW has started watching a nephew Monday-Wednesday - The little guy (~18 months old) came down with a bug Friday, and DW + DD3 got hit with it late Sunday/early Monday. I took a couple days off work to help and have been rewarded with that same bug myself. A bit of a bummer, but I'm telling myself a down week ahead of formally starting my 18 week plan on Monday will be a good thing.


          Seeing lots of good stuff here and on Strava.
          My last week:

          Weekly Summary
          Monday, Jul 02, 2018 thru Sunday, Jul 08, 2018

          <tfoot> </tfoot>
          Day Miles Pace Description HR Link
          Mon 10.3 8:11 2 hawks, 1 rabbit, & way too much humidity 140 (71%) strava
          Tue 10.4 8:06 3 rabbits & my track-coaching hawk. Who tapers for an Independence Day 5k anyway? Easy + strides 138 (70%) strava
          Wed 1.2 8:01 Warm-up & a few strides 139 (71%) strava
          Wed 3.1 6:10 Stars & Stripes Forever 5k - 19:07 chip 173 (88%) strava
          Fri 13.3 7:41 1T + 2T + 1T. Track coach didn't show. 160 (82%) strava
          Sat 15.1 8:22 1 buck in velvet, lots of MAMILs, & 2 incredible B-25 flyovers 151 (77%) strava
            53.4 7:58      

          5k: 18:54 9/18 │ 10k: 38:56 4/18 │ HM: 1:28:01 4/18 │ M: 3:17:24 11/16

          Upcoming Races:

          10/6/18: Wurst Race HM

          11/17/18: White River Marathon

          SteveChCh


            Some interesting discussions here, love it.

             

            Mark, please stick around and don't ditch us for a sub 1:15 thread!

             

            I took 10 days off post-calf soreness (but did the stationary bike in place of every run).  It just didn't seem to want to get any better, I'd try 10-20 metres and felt it so didn't try anything else.  It was feeling a bit better Wednesday and Thursday this week so I decided it's now or never if I have any chance of getting to the start line in 3 weeks.  I did 30 mins very easy last night and felt a dull pain in a small area where it started, and was waiting for a sharp pain to confirm it was game over, but it never came.  It feels fine today even when i had to run across the road to avoid death.  So my plan is to try 60 mins easy tomorrow then if that is okay, try and resume some speed on Monday.  That will give me 2 weeks of proper training, but obviously not what I'd normally do at this time.  I have no doubt that (assuming no more soreness) I can do the race in a respectable time.  Is a PB attempt still realistic?  I have a big base and only missed 10 days but I can't just ramp up to the sort of speed work I would normally be doing this close to a race - fitness wise I could handle it but it's just asking for my calf to blow up.

             

            There's a Sri Chinmoy in Hagley Park on September 24.  Perhaps I'd be wiser to not push it next week and just target that instead.  So annoying when I feel like I was in PB shape 11 days ago.

            PB:  Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

            Recent Races:  Queenstown 2017, Auckland Waterfront Half-Marathon 2018, South Island Half-Marathon 2018

            Upcoming Goal:  Selwyn Running Festival Half-Marathon, Leeston, November 4, 1:29.24

            JMac11


              Steve - 10 days is a very in between number. Not long enough that you lost a lot of fitness, but enough that going for a PB is challenging. I would say that you should continue training, but don't push it. It's better to miss that PB than to train very hard over the next 3 weeks and reinjure yourself. One other key point - no fitness is gained/lost in the 10 days prior to a race. So don't think you can cram in that final workout 4 days before the race and be okay. Goal right now is to get to the line healthy and then see how the day takes you.

              5K: 17:51 (5/18)  |  10K: 37:09 (6/18)  |  HM: 1:20:39 (5/17)  |  FM: 2:54:02 (11/17) 

               

              Next Race: Bronx 10 Mile (9/30/18)  

              Goal Race: NYC Marathon (11/4/18)

              SteveChCh


                Thanks JMac.  I agree, I don't think I've lost any fitness just the opportunity to build more speed.  I feel like if I take the sensible option I could go maybe around 1:32-33 then build (yet again) for a PB attempt in September.  It really has been a tough journey since the PB.

                PB:  Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

                Recent Races:  Queenstown 2017, Auckland Waterfront Half-Marathon 2018, South Island Half-Marathon 2018

                Upcoming Goal:  Selwyn Running Festival Half-Marathon, Leeston, November 4, 1:29.24

                Marky_Mark_17


                  Steve - I'd probably agree with JMac here.  You've still got a bit of time, but pushing it too hard at this stage is going to do more harm than good.  Listen to your body and just see how it goes.

                   

                  FYI I'm doing Dunedin half in early September, it looks like a relatively quick course, mostly around the central city and waterfront (finishes in the stadium too), could be another option depending how you go in Ashburton.

                  PRs:

                  5km: 16:43 (Auckland Corporate Challenge, Nov-17) | 10km: 34:08 (NZ Road Race Champs, Sep-18)

                  HM: 1:15:40 (NZ Half Marathon Champs (Dunedin), Sep-18) | FM: 2:57:36 (Auckland Marathon, Oct-17)

                  Last race: NZ Half Marathon Champs, 9 Sept, 1:15:40

                  Up next:  Devonport Half Marathon, 30 Sept

                  "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                  SteveChCh


                    Oh they must have changed the course for that, it used to finish at Port Chalmers when I lived there, with the famous Roseneath Hill 2km from the finish of the half and the full.  An inner city course must have plenty of twists and turns...just had a look at the website, wow they really have crammed it all in there.  Hopefully not an icy morning (very possible in September in Dunedin!)

                    PB:  Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

                    Recent Races:  Queenstown 2017, Auckland Waterfront Half-Marathon 2018, South Island Half-Marathon 2018

                    Upcoming Goal:  Selwyn Running Festival Half-Marathon, Leeston, November 4, 1:29.24

                    JMac11


                      I forgot to comment on something: I didn’t realize that Wellington is literally the windiest city in the world. Watson, you now have a lot more of my respect in your training! No idea how you deal with that on a daily basis.

                      5K: 17:51 (5/18)  |  10K: 37:09 (6/18)  |  HM: 1:20:39 (5/17)  |  FM: 2:54:02 (11/17) 

                       

                      Next Race: Bronx 10 Mile (9/30/18)  

                      Goal Race: NYC Marathon (11/4/18)

                      SteveChCh


                        JMac I lived in Wellington for a couple of years.  Running around the waterfront out to the airport is amazing on a calm day (so once every few weeks) and very very good resistance training every other day.  I've been teased by that wind, you'll lean into it and be sprinting (but moving at walking pace) then it will drop away for a second so you almost face plant on the concrete path...

                        PB:  Christchurch 2016 1:29.25

                        Recent Races:  Queenstown 2017, Auckland Waterfront Half-Marathon 2018, South Island Half-Marathon 2018

                        Upcoming Goal:  Selwyn Running Festival Half-Marathon, Leeston, November 4, 1:29.24

                          Jmac thats right google says its the windiest. Its actually a beautiful city and would be great for running with all the hills.

                          50+ PBs5k 18:29 Tauranga Parkrun May18   

                          10k 40:16 June 18

                          " I have a plan to make my legs longer by wearing shorter shorts "      

                           

                          watsonc123


                            On average, once per week (incl this morning) I run around where Steve mentioned.  It is really pretty, but is harsh in a northerly (the way back to town).

                             

                            Wellington city is where I work.  Upper Hutt city (really a town) is where I live and do most of my runs.  It is not as windy as Wellington city.

                             

                            The northerly is definitely the worst.  Especially when moderate to heavy rain, as it is much more soaking wet at 45 degrees than directly from on top.

                             

                            Maybe rather than dew point, on Strava I should include knots of wind?

                            PRs: 5km 18:43, half 1:26:16, full 3:09:28

                             

                            40+ PRs: half 1:29:39

                             

                            2018 aims: 1:25:00

                             

                            Next race: 5 Bridges Half Marathon 19 Aug

                            watsonc123


                              Just downloaded a NIWA report on the greater Wellington area.  It looks like Wellington city has an AVERAGE wind speed of about 25km/hr.  Upper Hutt is vastly less at 10km/HR.

                              PRs: 5km 18:43, half 1:26:16, full 3:09:28

                               

                              40+ PRs: half 1:29:39

                               

                              2018 aims: 1:25:00

                               

                              Next race: 5 Bridges Half Marathon 19 Aug

                              JMac11


                                Watson - Yes, report knots of wind, get as obnoxious about wind as we are about dew point 

                                 

                                Me - Had a very hard interval set last night of 5x1200 around 5K pace and 4x400 at mile pace. Although I was doing these fairly regularly in March and April, I haven't done them as much during the marathon buildup. The workout just kicked my ass, way worse than any tempo or marathon pace I've done, and reminded me I am not looking forward to my 5K next weekend. Anyway, right when I got home, I knew that the workout was probably too hard, as I stated to get very cold even though my apartment was around 80 degrees. I was wearing long underwear and sweats in the summer! The chills lasted about an hour, but then I switched to sweating like crazy. Fever was right at 100.3 / 38C. This happens to me once or twice a year, where I have a workout that destroys me and chills/fever sets in that night, but I wake up completely okay the next day.

                                 

                                Anybody else have that happen to them?

                                5K: 17:51 (5/18)  |  10K: 37:09 (6/18)  |  HM: 1:20:39 (5/17)  |  FM: 2:54:02 (11/17) 

                                 

                                Next Race: Bronx 10 Mile (9/30/18)  

                                Goal Race: NYC Marathon (11/4/18)