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How much faster was your second marathon? (Read 320 times)


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    There are a lot of folks here who run outstanding marathon times and who still race other distances -- and race them well. It's not an either/or proposition.

     

    Plus some of us run mediocre marathon times and race lots of other distances Smile

    It's a 5k. It hurt like hell...then I tried to pick it up. The end.

      Race 1:  4:29

      Race 2: 3:53

      Falling is easy, it's getting back up that becomes the problem ~Staind


      Consistently Slow

        #1--------3:46:59---1994. Trained AG 39

        #2--------5:37:18--2000-- a friends 1st(+ 2:08:09)

        #16------3:37:38--2011--Trained( -9:21)

        Pfizer  16/55.  Mile repeats instead of tempo runs.

        Run until the trail runs out.

         SCHEDULE 2016--

         The pain that hurts the worse is the imagined pain. One of the most difficult arts of racing is learning to ignore the imagined pain and just live with the present pain (which is always bearable.) - Jeff

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        http://bkclay.blogspot.com/

          Pfizer  16/55.

           

          That's a new one. Pharmaceutical-aided performance?


          Are we there yet?

            #1)  4/20/70 Boston 2:59:50

            #2)  5/25/70 Plodders 3:21:52 - probably trained too much in those 5 weeks and definitely went out way too fast in the second

            #3)  6/7/70  Holyoke 3:13:53 - two weeks later with a noon start, temps reached the 90s, not good marathon weather

            2016 Goals: Exceed 100K in a 24-Hour race, run more trail races (2 currently scheduled)

              2:50:25 Flying Monkey

              2:38:06 Country Music

               

              ~12 minutes faster.

               

              I think FMM was in Nov. 2005 and CMM was in April 2006. Wow, that was almost 9 years ago.

               

              It took me 5 years of steady training to run faster than 2:38:06.


              7 Deadly Shins

                About an hour faster.

                 

                Running is stupid

                CMJHawk86


                  Marathon #1: Philadelphia, 2006, 3:50

                  Marathon #2: Thunder Road (Charlotte), 2007, 3:21

                   

                  Ironically since that day in December 2007, when I ran a 3:21:07, I have only been able to squeeze another 26 seconds out of my PR (3:20:41) with 11 marathons now under my belt. Will make another attempt to break that pattern next month in Boston.


                  CT JEFF

                    #1--------3:46:59---1994. Trained AG 39

                    #2--------5:37:18--2000-- a friends 1st(+ 2:08:09)

                    #16------3:37:38--2011--Trained( -9:21)

                    Pfizer  16/55.  Mile repeats instead of tempo runs.

                     

                    Thank God there is someone here in my group. I really trained well for #2, but everything fell apart on race day. I showed up... without my gear.... without my bib... without my fuel....

                     

                    #1)  4:40. I trained just enough to get up to a marathon distance, and the weather actually helped a lot.

                    #2) 5:30 - Indoor marathon. Different in so many ways. Hell, Id rather do a FM on a TM than on a 0.2 track of cement.

                    #3) same course as #1, coming up in 70 days. Cant wait to improve. Goals are Sub 4 or at least sub 10:00 pace.

                    RUN SAFE.     Barefoot 1st: 6/9/13. PR: 5k=22:50 10k=47:46 HM 1:51. FM 4:28 Oct 2015 joined RUN 169!

                    2016- lose weight. Run faster. 

                    Aug 21 Canton Lobster Loop 5k (for Mario). 

                    Oct 1 LEGO 5k @ 9am. Cider Mille 5k @1030. 

                    Oct 8 Hartford Marathon FM

                      Thank you for this advice and reasoning.  I hope I am smart enough to do this when I attempt my first this Fall.

                       

                      For me even after 30+ marathons, running a conservative 1st race through 20 miles and then lower the hammer the last 10k would be the right choice.  It allowed me to be successful, to feel great the whole race and be excited and confident how I could improve in the next race.

                      Eric

                       

                      PRs:  5k - (20:42) 3/9/2013 18:55 (9/28/13)

                                 10k - (42:42) 3/23/2013 39:11 (10/26/13) course was short @ 6.0 mi :)

                                 10 mi - (1:12:10) 4/6/2013

                                 HM - (1:34:38) 4/27/2013

                        2:35:49

                        2:34:24

                         

                        I was elated with the debut, slightly disillusioned with the follow up (goal was 2:30 to 2:32), got injured during the recovery, and didn't run another for 16 years. In the meantime ran PRs for just about every other standard distance from the 800 meters to 10 mile.

                        TripleBock


                          No problem

                           

                          Thank you for this advice and reasoning.  I hope I am smart enough to do this when I attempt my first this Fall.

                           

                          I am fuller bodied than Dopplebock


                          Mmmmm...beer

                            For me even after 30+ marathons, running a conservative 1st race through 20 miles and then lower the hammer the last 10k would be the right choice.  It allowed me to be successful, to feel great the whole race and be excited and confident how I could improve in the next race.

                             

                            Having just run my first marathon using this method, I highly recommend it.  It felt so good to finish strong and pass some people at the end.  I'll report back next year with how much faster I run the second one.  Smile

                            -Dave

                            My running blog

                            Goals | sub-18 5k | sub-3 marathon


                            Consistently Slow

                               

                              Having just run my first marathon using this method, I highly recommend it.  It felt so good to finish strong and pass some people at the end.  I'll report back next year with how much faster I run the second one.  Smile

                               

                              Will you be 40 before Boston 2015?

                              Run until the trail runs out.

                               SCHEDULE 2016--

                               The pain that hurts the worse is the imagined pain. One of the most difficult arts of racing is learning to ignore the imagined pain and just live with the present pain (which is always bearable.) - Jeff

                              unsolicited chatter

                              http://bkclay.blogspot.com/


                              Mmmmm...beer

                                 

                                Will you be 40 before Boston 2015?

                                 

                                Yup, I turn 40 this year.

                                -Dave

                                My running blog

                                Goals | sub-18 5k | sub-3 marathon

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