RunningAHEAD - Topic: How to find my pace time (page 4)

jlynnbob

You'll ruin your knees!

posted: 3/7/2008 at 10:16 PM

Quote from Nobby415 on 3/7/2008 at 10:03 PM:

For what it's worth, without getting into the actul discussion, I like Willamona's style; what you read is what she is. Straight forward and no sugar-coating. Besides, she knows her stuff too (as far as I'm concerned).

Yep, her second response to the OP was well thought out and very appropriate. She absolutely does know her stuff. It just seems she really doesn't like to share it, or likes to make fun of the questioner, hence the snark. Her first response to the OP was pure snark and either fed a troll or put down a genuine newbie. Big difference between no sugar coating and a 2x4 acrosss the forehead. Oh, and as far as I can tell, you know your stuff as well, Nobby. When you share it is is well laid out and usually pretty dead on target. A difference I have seen is you offer your experience and advice willingly. I'm not trying to gang up or put down anyone, but the subject is Running101... I think it should be a place where folks new to running should feel comfortable asking questions. Yes, we have a lot of fun here, I'd just like to see the fun not be at the expense of others on their first attempt go plug in here. Lynn B

""...the truth that someday, you will go for your last run. But not today—today you got to run." - Matt Crownover (after Western States)

JillyBeans

Jiggle, jiggle, jiggle.

posted: 3/7/2008 at 10:19 PM
modified: 3/7/2008 at 10:29 PM

Whoops! I forgot to quote Zoomy's..... This is more the suit I was picturing.... http://www.livevideo.com/video/39F01548D6794020AFFA10F9A3E41A95/debra-messing-red-leather-pant.aspx so maybe I am the nice one. Smile

"The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step."

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rectumdamnnearkilledem

posted: 3/7/2008 at 10:39 PM

I wish I could wear a leather pantsuit...I have a feeling it would end like Ross' leather pants on "Friends." Blush

Getting the wind knocked out of you is the only way to

remind your lungs how much they like the taste of air.

~ Sarah Kay

courtney98

posted: 3/7/2008 at 11:16 PM
modified: 3/7/2008 at 11:17 PM

Yes, she does know what she's talking about. But why is it necessary to be so mean initially? I don't think it's that she doesn't like to share, she's made it clear she'll voice her opinions,...so I guess she just likes to make fun. I'm sorry I don't run 30+ miles a week. Some of us have husbands and kids to take care of outside of our full time jobs, and just don't have time to run more than we do. I run b/c it makes me feel good. If I run 3 miles I feel good, if I get in 10 I feel great. If that makes me an inadequate runner, so be it. And I'm one of those newbies who will probably not ask any questions on here b/c I will most definitely be slammed for my stupidity. Guess I'm just not hawt enough.

Started running Nov 2006 1st race: Cowtown 10K 2/24/07 1:09:32 PR 5K 29:54 PR 10K 1:01:08 White Rock 1/2 Dec 07 2:27:50 2010 goals PR all!!!

Calijem08

posted: 3/7/2008 at 11:25 PM

Thanks for the info some of ya'll gave. I am still going forth with my run, and registration doesn't end for a couple more months, so I will see where I am at at that time. The reason I asked about a pace time is because another friend of mine has started training too, and she was talking about pace time. I know that my body needs time to adjust to long distance running, and I am going along a training schedule. I am still determined. I am not really thinking about the race, just about finishing this marathon. There is one in Oct, in my area, so if I feel that I'm not ready in a couple months for the Aug race, I will take a few more months to train. Thanks again, and I love this site, to track my own daily logs.

HurricaneS

posted: 3/7/2008 at 11:33 PM

Good luck to you Calijem08. I think it's great that you're planning to listen to your body and are willing to consider delaying your race if you hit some bumps in training or don't feel ready (since you know are already on a very accelerated and optimistic plan). I hope you'll stick around the forums and let us know how your training is going.

SurfNRun

Prophet!

posted: 3/8/2008 at 12:11 AM

the big question is, do you like turtles ? or badminton ?

Crabby

Dog-Love

posted: 3/8/2008 at 12:13 AM

Whew after that vicious badminton video I hung up my birdie!

Run like you are on fire! 5K goal 24:00 or less (PR 24:34) 10K goal 50:00 or less (PR 52:45) HM goal 1:55:00 or less (PR 2:03:02) Marathon Goal...Less than my PR (PR 4:33:23)

SurfNRun

Prophet!

posted: 3/8/2008 at 12:18 AM

Quote from courtney98 on 3/7/2008 at 11:16 PM:

Guess I'm just not hawt enough.

i stalked your profile. I beg to differ! Shy

Joe.

jfa

posted: 3/8/2008 at 1:07 AM

Don't be a shuttlecock Cool

eric :)

posted: 3/8/2008 at 1:16 AM

Lynn, thank you for summarizing many people's sentiments so eloquently. Running 101 is a place for new runners to seek help. Running was new to all of us at one point, and the same questions are bound to come up because running is a simple sport made complicated by modern life. There is a reason why I'm a programmer instead of a neurosurgeon (I still want to be one, by the way). I'm not much of a people person, because like you, Willanoma, I do not like beating around the bush. There is no chance of mixing signals if I say exactly what's on my mind. I also recognize that not everyone appreciates straight talks because there is not much room for them to "save face". Even though I get my point through, I will also come across as an ass. Both the carrot and the stick are effective tools for behavioral modification and will produce the same result, but only one will leave the other person feeling good. The OP may be doing something that experienced runners will never recommend, and he/she is not the first or the last person to ask this type of questions. The collective you can either provide constructive criticisms and tell them why it's not a good idea, or you can ignore it altogether. Just because your reaction is "you gotta be kidding" doesn't mean you should express it. We are all people and we all deserve the same respect. The level of sarcasm has increased noticeably in the last several months in the forums and groups. To the new folks that do not know you or your type of humor, these "snarky" remarks come across as hostile. They discouraged many users from asking questions because they did not want to be ridiculed. Worse still is that these remarks drove away some long time members that made positive contributions to RA because they do not wish to be part of this hostile environment. The whole point of the forums and groups is to allow for free exchange of ideas. Runners like Nobby415, Long Run Nick, Figbash and many others have answered these same questions many times before, and they continue to answer them with the same enthusiasm. This is what RA is all about. This is what makes RA special. Let's keep it that way. I've said my share. I hope that you would accept my carrot and end all the snark. Thank you for reading. eric :-)

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rectumdamnnearkilledem

posted: 3/8/2008 at 10:50 AM

Quote from eric :) on 3/8/2008 at 1:16 AM:

There is a reason why I'm a programmer instead of a neurosurgeon (I still want to be one, by the way). I'm not much of a people person, because like you, Willanoma, I do not like beating around the bush. There is no chance of mixing signals if I say exactly what's on my mind.

*munches on carrot* Eric, I have never, ever, not even once seen you say anything that could in any way be conveyed as insulting, condescending, or rude. There's a distinct difference between being blunt, yet considerate and being downright snarky. I think most of us are able to discern between the two.

Getting the wind knocked out of you is the only way to

remind your lungs how much they like the taste of air.

~ Sarah Kay

Tchuck

SMART Approach

posted: 3/8/2008 at 11:28 AM
modified: 3/8/2008 at 11:29 AM

Quote from zoom-zoom on 3/7/2008 at 10:04 PM:

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skinnycaponesugar

posted: 3/9/2008 at 7:48 AM

Quote from jsobo119 on 3/7/2008 at 7:49 AM:

it is such a tough question to answer. I am not going to tell you that you cannot do it but others will. Look within their criticism for the information. 26.2 is a long way. To put it in perspective... you have to over come the following.. running 1 hour running 1.5 hours running 2 hours running 2.5 running 3 hours running 3.5 hours running 4 hours each of those hurdles requires time for your body to adjust to. To strengthen to. For you to mentally adjust to. In other words, you will have to attain each of those levels. Each will be a strech when you reach it then it will take time to own it. For your body to withstand it. When you finish 4 miles do you feel like you could do it again? By the time you own running for 2 hours then running 4 miles will seam like a long warm up. At some point running 6 miles is a short run. Most folks say you shouldn't attempt a marathon until: * You have been running consistently for a year. *You have a base weekly milage of x where x depends on who you talk to but somewhere in the 30-40 miles of base before you begin your training for the marathon seams to be about the minumum. Most training programs are somewhere around 16-30 weeks. It is a strech to think your body will be able to go from not running to running for 5 hours and so people will look at that and say I wouldn't do that and so you shouldn't. I say if you want to do it know what your are doing and then go for it! Alright so how to pick your pace... run slow now. Keep running slow. Build miles. In the late spring run a 10k, 15k, or a half marathon. That will give you an idea of pace or at least a ball park. Getting a pace and keeping it is just a matter of practice and building endurance. Being your mile time is where it is I would suspect that you are trying to finish just to finish not to "RACE" if that is the case don't worry about how fast you run... just run and enjoy it... go slow so you can talk with someone comfortably... then plan on going a bit slower yet when you run the marathon... I'm no expert by any means I thought I would share my 2 cents... good luck and I wish you the best!

Running a Marathon doesn't register in my radar at the moment...but as a newbie, this kind of advice is GOLD. I don't mind punctuated remarks, as long as I get truly helpful advice, that's what Running101 is, isn't it? and before someone asks, I like animals in general Wink

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