Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2019 (Read 641 times)

JMac11


RIP Milkman

    Ha thanks Corey, keep those strides up! They seem so stupid but they're surprisingly helpful.

     

    Over in Sub 3, we have JMac, Nimmals, CalBears, Brewing Runner, Madison Runner, and Swim. 2 going for sub 2:35, 2 going for sub 2:40, and 2 going for sub 3.

    5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

     

     

    flavio80


    Intl. correspondent

      Mark/Jmac - I guess no point arguing target pace this early in the process, right? Isn't it better to just wait and see how Mark's body will react to the higher mileage + marathon workouts? Also to Jmac - Maybe Mark is not a marathon animal and he's got to be conservative in his aim considering his "bad" experience the first time.

       

      Jmac - aren't you targeting a moose mug as well?

       

      For everybody - I found this article today and it seems interesting. It might help you guys if you get hit with sore throats as frequently as I am.

      https://antranik.org/<wbr>stop-a-cold/

      PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:53 2023 - 10K 37:55 2023 - HM 1:21:59 2021

      Up next: no idea

      Tool to generate Strava weekly

      JMac11


      RIP Milkman

        No moose mug. I don't think a 2:32 is in these legs, given that require me to run my half marathon pace . My 1:16:05 half says somewhere between 2:38-2:41, but given that half was into a headwind, my adjusted goal is 2:37-2:39.

         

        Regarding Mark, yeah I get it. The marathon is the one race where if you're off by just 5 seconds per KM, the blow up can be spectacular. I still think sub 2:35 is conservative. For someone as well trained as him, HM+11 is VERY conservative. The aggressive goal is HM+7.

        5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

         

         

        watsonc123


          I think Mark needs to be conservative.  I know 1:12 half guy who is 60-85 miles per week consistently, who does 2:45 on a good day.   Some people are naturally worse at the marathon.

          PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

           

          40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

           

          2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

           

          2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

          Marky_Mark_17


            Mark/Jmac - I guess no point arguing target pace this early in the process, right? Isn't it better to just wait and see how Mark's body will react to the higher mileage + marathon workouts? Also to Jmac - Maybe Mark is not a marathon animal and he's got to be conservative in his aim considering his "bad" experience the first time. 

             

            Yeah, you nailed it FlavioJMac has run, what, at least 4 or 5 marathons now?  I've run one, and I ran it badly.  It took me 4 or 5 half marathons before I really learned how to pace a race to get the most of out of it and the marathon requires even more precision and control.  You've got to respect the marathon as a distance, otherwise you automatically lose.

             

            I know local guys who've run 2:40 flat this year.  I know I'm faster than them and better conditioned.  I also know they've run a lot more marathons than I have and that plays a big part in it.

             

            In this case, I don't think 2:38 is sandbagging, it's a line in the sand, and a lot of it is just admitting there's a lot I don't know about marathons and maybe once I've got a few more under my belt I can get a bit more aggressive with goals.  I don't know how well I'll handle the mileage or workouts, so I'm just not getting ahead of myself.

            3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

            10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

            * Net downhill course

            Last race: Maraetai HM, 10 Mar, DNF

            Up next: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr

            "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

            SteveChCh


            Hot Weather Complainer

              Mark I only really started talking about your goal to wind up JMac but I think the only way to do that is complain that it's too hot when it's less than 100F....

              5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23

               

              2024 Races:

              Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024 1:29:55

              Christchurch Half-Marathon April 21, 2024

              Selwyn Marathon June 2, 2024

              Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024

              Marky_Mark_17


                Mark I only really started talking about your goal to wind up JMac but I think the only way to do that is complain that it's too hot when it's less than 100F....

                 

                I think just arbitrarily complaining about the heat without providing a TDP measure might do it as well.

                 

                On that note, I still don't understand what you achieve by adding temperature to dew point, considering the dew point already reflects a humidity-adjusted measure of the temperature.

                3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                * Net downhill course

                Last race: Maraetai HM, 10 Mar, DNF

                Up next: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr

                "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                JMac11


                RIP Milkman

                  Mark, I can't tell if that's a serious question or you're just trying to get my goat. I think it's the latter. My goats are secured in their pens, they will not be gotten!

                  5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                   

                   

                  kimba


                    JMac - did I miss the information on how to follow you during CIM?

                    800m:  2:20.3 (2015) | 1 Mile:  5:13 (2016) | 5K: 18:32 (2010) | 10km: 39:55 (2012) HM: 1:28 (2013) 

                     

                    watsonc123


                      If you just take dew point:

                       

                      25 C @ 100% relative humidity = 37 C @ 50% relative humidity

                       

                      If you take dew point plus temperature

                       

                      25% @ 100% relative humidity = 50 TDP (metric)

                       

                      37C @ 50% relative humidity = 62 TDP (metric)

                       

                      I would take 25C @ 100% humidity over 37C @ 50% relative humidity.  Which would put me in the TDP camp.

                       

                       

                      Or more extreme, for just dew point

                       

                      10 C @ 100% relative humidity = 37C @ 20% relative humidity

                      PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                       

                      40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

                       

                      2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

                       

                      2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

                      JMac11


                      RIP Milkman

                        Tracking is here: https://track.rtrt.me/e/CRRM-CIM-2019

                         

                        Bib is 6972

                        5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                         

                         

                        CommanderKeen


                        Cobra Commander Keen

                          JMac - You heading out soon? Or are you gone already? Best of luck either way. I look forward to reading a RR next week!

                           

                          My legs felt good, though "taper heavy" for my workout yesterday morning. My HR climbed much higher, much faster than it should have given the effort and conditions. Ready for the antibiotics to be out of my system, which should be this weekend.

                          5k: 17:58 11/22 │ 10k: 37:55 9/21 │ HM: 1:23:22 4/22 │ M: 2:56:05 12/22

                           

                          Upcoming Races:

                           

                           

                          Marky_Mark_17


                            Tracking is here: https://track.rtrt.me/e/CRRM-CIM-2019

                             

                            Bib is 6972

                             

                            Go smash it! This has been the most impressive, consistent training cycle that you’ve logged so go cash it in!

                            3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                            10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                            * Net downhill course

                            Last race: Maraetai HM, 10 Mar, DNF

                            Up next: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr

                            "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                            flavio80


                            Intl. correspondent

                              Jmac - Ugh, you youngsters!

                              Go get it at CIM. We’ll be tracking you and cheering you along the way.

                               

                              Mark - a moose mug is a monumental achievement. I hope you get it.

                              I also hope RBBMoose is still delivering moose mugs Smile

                               

                              Mark/Steve - say you don’t believe the Americans went to the Moon and watch an American spin for 2 hours.

                               

                              Keen - best wishes for your recovery!

                               

                              me - ugh, still got a sore throat, but managed to run yesterday's workout today. No elevated heart rate so I guess I was good enough to go.

                              I just can't shake this completely off, really annoying.

                              PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:53 2023 - 10K 37:55 2023 - HM 1:21:59 2021

                              Up next: no idea

                              Tool to generate Strava weekly

                              SteveChCh


                              Hot Weather Complainer

                                Good luck JMac, go and get the PR++, you've earned it

                                5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23

                                 

                                2024 Races:

                                Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024 1:29:55

                                Christchurch Half-Marathon April 21, 2024

                                Selwyn Marathon June 2, 2024

                                Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024