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3 1/2 marathons question UPDATED training schedule (Read 661 times)

    Ok so I am running my first three 1/2 marathons at the end of the year. I just started training for the first one on 04OCT. The second one is not until 27NOV and I am not sure exactly how to keep up my endurance for the second and the third one but not over do it so that I can complete them all. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Jeremy
    2009 Goals...:
    -run more miles than 2008

    -build base to train for 2010 Rome Marathon
      Blisters


        You're already thinking the right way when you say you are concerned about not overdoing it. Even halves can stress your body, especially when they are your first ones and they are bunched up like that.
        mikeymike


          You just need to run a lot between now and then. They're spaced out enough that it shouldn't be a problem recovering and maintaining fitness between them, so long as you have a solid base by then.

          Runners run


          Half Fanatic #846

            The first HM is just a little over 2 months from now - IMHO that's not enough time to work up to increased mileage and distance properly without overtraining from where you are starting. Then I saw that you completed a 15K, so....?? Confused Kamal's link has some good info. My advice is to pick a beginner's HM plan (Higdon, Galloway, Whoever...) and stick with it - no shortcuts. Building a base for a few months first is usually recommended...then starting a plan. I'd hate to see an overtraining injury develop - that's what would have probably happened to me! Maybe consider doing the last (3rd one) and either skipping the first two or replacing them with shorter races. That would seem to be a good compromise. I ran for 3 1/2 years at about 25-30 mpw, with long runs of 12-14 miles before I felt really comfortable with doing a HM, but then I'm an old guy with almost 30 years on you. Maybe you can do it - it still sounds risky - just be careful! I know you're anxious, and I think that's where most of us get into trouble - been there, done that!! Embarrassed Good luck whatever you decide! Smile

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              If you have a good enough base for the first one, you won't have to worry about keeping your "endurance" for the second one. With your light mileage base, my recommendation would be to slow down a few easy/long runs and make them a tad bit longer. E.g. when you do your next long run, why not slow down a little and take a short (30-60 seconds) walk break after each mile? You can increase your mileage more without getting injured this way. With your first 1/2 M, you might consider taking the first half of the race very easy and comfortable... if you don't it can make the last few miles a real drag (and worse, with a low mileage training base, you might get a nagging injury of some kind.)
                You should be careful about 3 in that span........if you run the first, you might need some recovery time and you are best to cut back and fully recover first before taking on another one.... Jeremy - the base mileage is so important before you start run a longer race so I recommend you be careful to get your base up and maintain it for a while before attempting one 1/2.....Three....Whew.....Seem a little too aggressive to me (at your current level of training and base mileage)...... BE CAREFUL....you could be on the road to injury.......

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                  We're talking halves here. Now, you haven't mentioned any race goals aside from "complete them all". Get ready for the first one. As long as you aren't trying to win it *and* provided you had been running some before you started formally training, you can get ready for it. It'll take some work. But after that? It's 7 1/2 weeks from race one to race two. IMHO, this is plenty of time to recover and stay in "complete them all" shape for #2. Obviously, if you hurt yourself before/during race #1, then you might need to reconsider. But if you finish strong, happy, and ready to try again... 7 1/2 weeks is a fine amount of time. It's less than a month between race #2 and #3, but I still think the same thing. If you finish #2 feeling strong, then you can be ready (where ready is defined as "complete them all") for #3. I don't want to come across as sounding like I'm saying these are *just* halves. The half marathon is a tough distance, not to be taken lightly, etc. In fact, the half is my FAVORITE distance, by far. You can do it. As for how to train, there are lots of ways to do it. If you were running the marathon, I'd suggest a peek at Higdon's "multiple marathon" training plans as well as the stuff in the back of Pfitzinger's "Advanced Marathoning" book. But you are running the half. Your training between the two races will be dictated by your recovery time after the race you've just finished.

                   

                    Week Mon Tues Wed Thur Fri Sat Sun 28 JUL 3 miles 3 miles 3 miles Rest 3 miles 4 miles Rest 04 AUG 3 miles 3 miles 3 miles Rest 3 miles 5 miles Rest 11 AUG 3 miles 4 miles 3 miles Rest 3 miles 5 miles Rest 18 AUG 3 miles 4 miles 3 miles Rest 3 miles 6 miles Rest 25 AUG 3 miles 4 miles 3 miles Rest 3 miles 7 miles Rest 01 SEPT 3 miles 4 miles 3 miles Rest 3 miles 8 miles Rest 08 SEPT 3 miles 5 miles 3 miles Rest 3 miles 9 miles Rest 15 SEPT 3 miles 5 miles 3 miles Rest 3 miles 10 miles Rest 22 SEPT 3 miles 5 miles 3 miles Rest 3 miles 6 miles Rest 29 SEPT Rest 3 miles Rest 3 Miles Rest 13.1 miles Rest MTA: let me know what you think about this plan please
                    2009 Goals...:
                    -run more miles than 2008

                    -build base to train for 2010 Rome Marathon
                      Looks like a typical beginner half plan. Starting from your weekly base, which isn't very much, I'd be careful. Keep that plan as a guide and don't try to cram workouts if you miss, and watch for nagging injuries. The typical mantra... And careful with your previously bum knee.
                        Thanks for the insight Ryan. When I trained for the Gate River Run (15k) at the end of last year I learned a hard lesson.....don't run as fast as you can on every run (I was till a newb at the time). Now as you can see if you look at my log most of my runs are between 9:00 and 10:00 per mile so I am def. taking it easy. I think that I am going to try and do 1 day a week at race pace. I would "like" to have that at about 8:30 to 9:00 but as long as I finish I will be happy with that. ANy other advice would be greatly appreciated. Jeremy
                        2009 Goals...:
                        -run more miles than 2008

                        -build base to train for 2010 Rome Marathon
                          What exactly is your goal? To run 3 HM's in 3 mo, or to break 2 hours? 9:09 pace is 2hrs. I think your HM race pace of 8:30-9:00 is a bit aggressive right now, and I think most people on this forum would agree. Your 15k in March was in 9:32 pace and you haven't been putting in very much mileage to make your 30-60 sec/mi improvement. I would stick to runs in the 9:30-10:30 pace and not worry about race pace right now. Maybe go for 8:30-9:00 pace in your 3rd HM after you have more of a base, and if you recover well from the first two. Also, based on your fastest mile of 7:50, most running calculators predict your half marathon race pace at around 9:30/mi. Keep up the training and you'll speed up naturally! Have fun. Cool