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Whether on this thread or on a group, I'd love to see what people did this week for training. Gives me ideas, compare notes, etc.
Does it count if I want to do it again? I ran 2:59:56 in NYC last year; by far the hardest thing I've ever done. And I'm not so sure about that equivalent times chart. I've run 18:00 5k (actually 17:59.85 :yes and 1:22:## half marathon, and they weren't near as hard as the sub-3 hour marathon. I don't have a specific marathon scheduled yet, but I'm definitely planning to go for it again.
Ham & Egger
I started to but had second thoughts when I realized that most of us have logs. However, there is something to be said for posting where it can all be seen at once. Ok, I'm not proud. Here's the slowest bunch of training paces you'll find around these parts. I am "hopeful" in the truest sense of the word: Mon1 – 7 miles at 8:25 pace Mon2 – 4 at 8:15 Tue – 6 at 8:28 Wed – 8 at 8:24 Thu – 7 at 8:31 Fri – 8 at 8:32 Sat – 9 miles including 3.06-mile club race in 19:08 (6:15, 6:15, 6:15, 0:23) Sun – 16 at 8:08 Mon through Tue all on the grass. Total – 65 miles
Jim, That's not slow, that's smart...you're running conservative paces based on your fitness. That's the point! Where are you in the training cycle? Early by the looks of it...are you doing CMI, or am I misremembering? By the by, we could just look at logs, but I like having the stuff in front of me and talking about it. It's a good way to develop comradarie on that sort of thing.
...a key half marathon (Oct 19). Three weeks after that will be another key race at 30k. That leaves me 4 weeks before CIM. At first I though I would need to choose between the 30k and CIM but I’ve started thinking more seriously about doing them both. Any opinions on this?
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... The following week will be 5k after which I get a 5-week break from racing to get ready for a key half marathon (Oct 19). Three weeks after that will be another key race at 30k. That leaves me 4 weeks before CIM. At first I though I would need to choose between the 30k and CIM but I’ve started thinking more seriously about doing them both. Any opinions on this? The 30k is definite as it is part of the USATF series that I’ll be running for my club in.
... Im following Daniels A-Plan for Chicago. Since track work is no fun in the winter, I'm thinking of switching over to Hadd for Boston (if I run and re-BQ). It simpler to just run everything on the roads. I like the track work in the warmer weather.... I also think I could benefit from some 5k/10k training as I don't feel up to snuff at those paces. I seem to be able to run comfortable at HRs in the 160s, but when my HR gets into the mid-170s I can't handle the lactic acid.
That sounds like almost the ideal marathon buildup to me. I don't think I'd run a marathon at this point without including a half marathon and a 30k in the preparation and 4 weeks is good timing. I'm running a 30K in two weeks, a half on Sep 28th, and Bay State on October 19th. I'd actually prefer the half was first and the 30k was a month before the marathon but it is what it is.
An acquaintance I know over at the Asics Aggies out of San Luis Obespo sent me some of his women's team old training schedules: those are exactly the races he had them due to get ready for CIM. And what struck me as interesting is that each had a portion run @ MP. The half was 10@tempo, 3 race. The 30k was all MP. Not sure I'd want to put all my eggs into one marathon during a given cycle...but those races match up perfectly, as Mike says.
Right or wrong, a signficant difference for me will be that I'm racing them both all out. They are part of USATF series where I will go against top dogs in old man's division. The 30k counts as double points in standings and half is 1 1/2. Awesome training you are doing. 70's is probably about as high as I'll get, with maybe a week or 2 at 80.
I use the HRM to simply collect data--I mute the "berrping" and just run "on feel").
Ricky —our ability to perform up to our physiological potential in a race is determined by whether or not we truly psychologically believe that what we are attempting is realistic. Anton Krupicka
I'm trying my best to get the most out of what's being posted here, so if you're running by feel, it would be best to leave the HR stuff out. Jus' sayin'.