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Flavio: thats frustrating, the watch issue. And now good luck in getting it repaired....as well as the state 1500m championship. Go for gold!
HM: 1:47 (9/20) I FM: 3:53:11 (9/23)
2024 Goals: run a FM & HM + stay healthy!
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Steve - the only thing I take a little umbrage with is the advice to not run through injuries. I think that's great advice for beginners, but it doesn't apply to everybody and often is too conservative. And no, I'm not just saying that as someone currently running through an injury . I'm saying this because there are different types of "injuries." Some are niggles, some are severe, some are in between. If I stopped running every time something felt off or I had a pain somewhere, I would be taking a week off every month. Granted, at this point I know my body and what constitutes something I can run through and something I can't. There are injuries that I could take 4 weeks off and still feel them, like a tiny strain I had in a tendon in my foot during July/August of this year. Another good example is the IT Band. Sometimes it gets a little wonky and you know you just need to roll it out and work on it over a week or two. Other times, it may be bad enough you need to stop. I think the key to all injuries is developing your own system for determining when it's serious enough to take a few days off. For me, it's a question of pain while running. If it's only a 1 or 2 out of 10, i.e. "this feels off but not really painful", then I will keep running. Additionally, pain progressing throughout a run is a serious sign. I go through a system of checklists each time something creeps up to determine whether it's something I can run through, e.g. a niggle, or something serious, e.g. a real injury.
5K: 16:37 (11/20) | 10K: 34:49 (10/19) | HM: 1:14:57 (5/22) | FM: 2:36:31 (12/19)
Flavio was that a brand new watch ?
Jmac you wrote exactly what I was thinking about niggles and injuries. Ive run through so many sore bits and come out the other side. Ive had about 4 more serious out for 8 week type injuries in 8 years. Once I start limping when I run then I know its bad and time to take a few days off. Achilles is a funny one. You can stop for 2 months and start up again and it will be exactly the same. The theory is its actually better to keep blood pumping through it so you may as well keep running.
Still amazed at Kipchoges 2.01 marathon. He ran both halfs in 1.01 ish, ran the last 17kms alone, was jumping up and down for a while after ecstatic, averages 2.04 in all marathons. That time is sub 2.55/km if my math is right.
I got a good free live stream from letsrun but in German. They focussed alot on what was obviously the top German man and lady. The top German guy looked to have run 2.22. The top 3 females overall were 2.18s !
55+ PBs 5k 18:36 June 3rd TT
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Somewhere in between is about right "
Piwi - The point about keeping blood flowing is so true for me. One thing I learned after my last marathon cycle was that I can't just take a few weeks off, as it seems to actually cause more injuries. My entire foot thing crept up after I took it way too easy in November. My guess is that it's for the reason you stated. But the vast majority of my injuries do better if I keep running. My knees especially feel like crap once I stop.
Regarding Kipchoge, it really is unbelievable. He ran a negative split of course.
I follow a guy named Brendan Martin on Strava who lives in the NY area. He ended up running a 2:16! Pretty impressive.
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Piwi - yeah brand new, used it like 3 times.
I got in touch today with Garmin Brazil to try to set up a repair, but their site has a bug that won't allow me to register. I've called them again and I'm now waiting for them to fix the buggy site.
PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:53 2023 - 10K 37:55 2023 - HM 1:21:59 2021
Up next: some 800m race (or time trials) / Also place in the top 20% in a trail race
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Hi all,
I am in North carolina, arrived with the tale of the Hurricane Florence on Sunday afternoon. It hasn't stopped rain yet...
but where I am it's all good. I ran 30 miles last week, with a couple of intervals and a few race pace. This week I am aiming to run 4-5 times 3/4 miles with some race pace to taper to Sunday. I will be back on Saturday at noon in Belfast. So if everything goes well, I should run my target half marathon on Sunday morning.
I feel positive, but starting to get the taper doubts ... I definitely put the work in, I hope I can get the target time, but I have enjoyed the process... I missed Kipchoge ... where was he running? 2:01!!! the guy is incredible!
PRs since re-started in 2013:
5km: 19:43 (Belfast park run Sep-16) | 10km: 40:16 (Belfast Lagan side 10K Sep-18)
HM: 1:30:09 (Belfast city Half Marathon, September-18) | FM: 3:25:05 (official chip time Belfast city Marathon, May-19, marathon was 0.3/4 longer, original time 3:27:20 for 26.5/6...)
Upcoming races:
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Berlin of course!! I was waiting for something like this to happen since London... the experiment of the 2 hours in Monza really gave him confidence! Just the guy is incredible!
hey everyone... hope you're all doing well.
Just jumping on to post last weeks training
As I expected this weeks volume was off due to traveling over the weekend, I managed to get up and run Saturday but a bit disappointed in myself that I didn't drag my ass out of bed Sunday morning and get in the 10 I had planned done....
30 miles for the week
Back on Track this week
Weekly SummaryMonday, Sep 10, 2018 thru Sunday, Sep 16, 2018
PR's
1m 5:38 (2018)
5k 19:59 (2019)
HM 1:33:56 (2018)
FM 3:23:07 (2018)
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JMac - Yep I agree with that. You'll always get niggles or sore as a runner, they key is knowing when it's a real message and when you can run it off.
My calf is one I know I can't run off. And on that note, after my reasonably tough 2 pain free runs last week, 10 mins into my run the pain came back and after 5-8 mins of seeing if it was real, I had to stop again. Very frustrating, didn't feel a thing on Saturday. It's a bit sore today, just feels like a bit of a knot. I think it's time to get a sports massage and maybe take a bit longer than a couple of days rest.
5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23
2024 Races:
Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024 1:29:55
Christchurch Half-Marathon April 21, 2024 1:27:34
Selwyn Marathon June 2, 2024
Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024
Rolling equipment free advice . Anybody else feel free to chime in for what they think works. I feel like we haven't really had this discussion and would love to know what everyone uses.
For calves, I find the stick is by far the best (https://www.thestick.com/)
For quads, IT Bands, and hamstrings, I find the TP foam roller to be the best (https://www.amazon.com/TriggerPoint-Roller-Instructional-Original-13-inch/dp/B01LW755GP)
Finally, for glutes, adductors, and other very deep localized spots where you need a high amount of focused pressure (ie the stick or grid doesn't do the trick), I find lacrosse balls or other hard massage balls to work. I use something called the Tiger Ball but any hard ball would work. (https://www.tigertailusa.com/product/tiger-ball/)
I will chime in regarding the hard balls I use the blackroll ball. Might be a Swiss brand but its more like a softball size so slightly bigger than the lacrosse ball, which I use for the feet though.
Flavio: the Garmin doesnt have a heartrate sensor now does it? I am not in the market for a new watch because I am broke but am starting to scan whats out there.
Piwi aka Adidas sales rep: have you tried the Bostons 7 yet? I am not in the market for new shoes because I am notoriously broke but I am kind of thinking about them since I love the B6
Came into a conversation about hard balls at the wrong time
Re Kipchoge - yeah phenomenal run. Had to do all the work himself for the last 17km, just an absolute machine. Piwi, there were a couple of Kiwis who did alright too, Malcolm Hicks 2:16 (debut marathon!) and another guy in 2:18. As much as I think the Nike Breaking 2 thing was a bit of a Nike branding/science experiment and not really running, maybe it's just given him a little bit of an extra kick.
Corey- nice week
Rolling - I have 2, a fairly normal Obie foam roller, and a spiky PTP roller. The Obie one does the trick for most things but sometimes I need to use the spiky one on my calves. And I'll roll my feet on a golf ball sometimes to help prevent PF.
Steve - I tend to only get massages before/after races but have found them pretty good for releasing any tight spots, might be worth a go.
3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)
10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)
* Net downhill course
Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48
Up next: Runway5, 4 May
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I do a lot of self-massage but I'm a bit slack, I tend to only do it when it starts getting sore...
On JMac's advice I've ordered a stick and I'll start using it every day when it arrives. My problem does seem to stem from tight spots which gradually get worse and worse until they're a real issue.
Mick I think mine are the 6s as have had them over a year. I cant see a model number on them. If I could only have one shoe for training, 5ks to marathon it would be it. I have about 5 pairs of various running shoes in rotation right now and I suspect they are all " dead " but I havent been keeping a tally on mileage. Im getting away with it as my mileage is low and Im running mostly on softer surfaces.
I too feel to poor to go buy some new ones
Mark good to hear some nice results by those kiwis. Still a world away from the sub 2.10 crowd but very good nonetheless.
Ive never foam rolled my hard balls or used a stick, you guys are disgusting
MJ - I think most watches have a heart rate sensor, the accuracy though...
Piwi - that's right, show them what's up! Save the hard balls!